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10-18-2014, 04:34 PM
#3461
Living the Dream
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From the last email: "We plan to repost the CLT displacement on October 20 with a December 2014 effective date."
10-18-2014, 04:49 PM
#3462
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
Sorry, you're full of ****. They don't forecast that far out. Plus, Ejet deliveries pick up to 3 per month for the last 15 and attrition is actually picking up as well.
10-18-2014, 05:20 PM
#3463
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Joined APC: Mar 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wt932051
Wow, You guys sound like a bunch of over sensitive girls! The downgrade/re-upgrade to the E-jet didn't happen because the company decided to violate the contract. Ask ALPA. They agree.
My source is the training department.
Sorry, you're full of ****. They don't forecast that far out. Plus, Ejet deliveries pick up to 3 per month for the last 15 and attrition is actually picking up as well.
Originally Posted by wt932051
Wow, You guys sound like a bunch of over sensitive girls! The downgrade/re-upgrade to the E-jet didn't happen because the company decided to violate the contract. Ask ALPA. They agree.
My source is the training department.
Sorry, you're full of ****. They don't forecast that far out. Plus, Ejet deliveries pick up to 3 per month for the last 15 and attrition is actually picking up as well.
Thank you.
10-18-2014, 05:31 PM
#3464
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
I thought it was gonna be street captains by spring...now it's hiring is stopping. The rumor mill is certainly churning out some wild stuff this month!
By the way, if it was an instructor...they usually know less than the average line pilot as far as "inside scoop" goes.
By the way, if it was an instructor...they usually know less than the average line pilot as far as "inside scoop" goes.
10-19-2014, 02:55 AM
#3465
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: Airbus FO
Posts: 279
Relax, I was told it would just be a short bit before they hired again. Maybe a couple of months. I think with all of this movement, they have not realized how many guys will retire, or quit and go to PSA. So just be patient. We still need pilots, just a short break on hiring early next year until Mesa realizes how short we are again...ha
10-19-2014, 02:59 AM
#3466
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: Airbus FO
Posts: 279
I would not be full of *****, the person in the training dept who told me this would be...
They have been pretty accurate in the past...
I agree with you, however, Mesa is the one who needs to understand it, I have no control. Call me names, tell me I am wrong, whatever, but I am just the messenger... Maybe you should call standing bids/crew planning and have a talk with them and they will rethink the whole thing... I wish it was that simple.
Last edited by wt932051; 10-19-2014 at 03:30 AM.
10-19-2014, 03:18 AM
#3467
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Joined APC: Aug 2014
Position: Airbus FO
Posts: 279
I thought it was gonna be street captains by spring...now it's hiring is stopping. The rumor mill is certainly churning out some wild stuff this month!
By the way, if it was an instructor...they usually know less than the average line pilot as far as "inside scoop" goes.
By the way, if it was an instructor...they usually know less than the average line pilot as far as "inside scoop" goes.
10-19-2014, 05:17 AM
#3468
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: Mannin' deez blenps
Posts: 193
CRJ will never stop hiring, as long as CRJ guys bid over to EJET captain and guys attrition out. It might slow for a month or two of upgrades but it won't really stop for FO's.
Overall it really means more guys will have shots at EJET slots for the next few months. If they want it..
-rspct
Overall it really means more guys will have shots at EJET slots for the next few months. If they want it..
-rspct
10-19-2014, 05:54 AM
#3469
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Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: in a Big Box that moves back,forth, up, down and makes cool sounds
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I don't think anyone who ACTUALLY works here right now is talking crap about this place.
Lots of upgrades happening. (Most junior CRJ CA is a 2013 hire) Tons of hiring to finish staffing the 10 more CRJ900s that came online this summer and fall. Hiring for E175s that continue to arrive into 2016. E175 CA upgrades should touch 2013 hires next award (December upgrade classes)
This is not the Mesa of 2010 or 2008 for that matter.
Great training department, good CPs who are here to help.
CNX pay... block or better...
DFW- CRJ9 AA
PHX- CRJ9 AA
IAD- CRJ7 UA
IAH- E175 UA
IPAD EFB. (big deal if you're coming from an airline with paper charts, makes life much easier)
Longest contract extensions with mainline partners of all the regionals. 2019 for UA and 2021 for AA. (May have those reversed) No 50 seaters left, they were all shed during bankruptcy. Fleet of on demand 70-79 seat aircraft.
Lots of guys out there who were furloughed or quit Mesa 07-11 out there. From what I've heard this place SUCKED back then. They're the ones still spewing the hate.
I don't blame them, I'll probably be spewing hate about RAH well into the 2030's.......
Lots of upgrades happening. (Most junior CRJ CA is a 2013 hire) Tons of hiring to finish staffing the 10 more CRJ900s that came online this summer and fall. Hiring for E175s that continue to arrive into 2016. E175 CA upgrades should touch 2013 hires next award (December upgrade classes)
This is not the Mesa of 2010 or 2008 for that matter.
Great training department, good CPs who are here to help.
CNX pay... block or better...
DFW- CRJ9 AA
PHX- CRJ9 AA
IAD- CRJ7 UA
IAH- E175 UA
IPAD EFB. (big deal if you're coming from an airline with paper charts, makes life much easier)
Longest contract extensions with mainline partners of all the regionals. 2019 for UA and 2021 for AA. (May have those reversed) No 50 seaters left, they were all shed during bankruptcy. Fleet of on demand 70-79 seat aircraft.
Lots of guys out there who were furloughed or quit Mesa 07-11 out there. From what I've heard this place SUCKED back then. They're the ones still spewing the hate.
I don't blame them, I'll probably be spewing hate about RAH well into the 2030's.......
I worked at Mesa from 2000-2008. I was a Captain on the CRJ in IAD when I got fed up and left.( Bad Decision using 20/20 hindsight.) I start back at Mesa on October 30 on the CRJ- and I'm excited about being back in the 121 game.
Sounds like I may be going back to Dulles for a while but hoping for either Dallas or Phoenix- being a West Coaster. Seeing as how I might be in Dulles, I'm glad I treated all my F/O's well!! LOL.
Any idea from a CURRENT Mesa pilot on how long to a possible Upgrade opportunity???
Thanks..
10-19-2014, 06:23 AM
#3470
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Posts: 1,666
For pilots hired today, that's a toughy. There are some predictions that a whole slew of FOs they hired since 2013 are not eligible for upgrade yet, but that remains to be seen. All the captains needed for currently announced growth are already on property and have been since early to middle summer. Rampant rumors of more airplanes coming but again, that remains to be seen. Although the junior CA is a 4/13 hire, they've hired 300 pilots since him. The longer the ineligible FOs are on property, the closer they get to being eligible. Most of the pilots hired into the EJET are prior 121 so most of them are eligible right now and are just waiting for seniority.
Increased attrition and/or more airplanes would obviously improve the chances of a quick upgrade quite a bit.
Increased attrition and/or more airplanes would obviously improve the chances of a quick upgrade quite a bit.
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