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Old 10-10-2014, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
It's been a rough day for personal and now professional reasons. I'm not here to throw a pity party, I just wanted to ask if anyone could explain the discrepancy. Navmode was kind enough to. Thanks for your concern.
No offense bro, but I think @FerrisBluer is simply pointing out that, being as you're barely off IOE, if you're already having a "rough day" because you didn't get PHX straight outta training, you have most certainly picked the wrong profession.

And if you're having a bad day for anything--regardless of whether it's for personal or professional reasons--call off sick, get out of your head, and get off of APC for God's sake.

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm just saying you seriously need to re-evaluate your chosen profession, and your personal capability to deal with unmet expectations if you ever hope to survive in this industry. Additionally, if you plan on being a Captain one day, you really need to develop a thicker skin than you're expressing right now. #realtalk

People wait years--and in some cases decades--for specific bases. Talk to anyone who has been through an economic downturn, a bankruptcy, a furlough, or even just a "legacy XYZ doesn't want you around anymore"--it happens ALL THE TIME. Mesa isn't immune to any of those things at all--I don't care what any of our contracts or recruiters say.

You need to be prepared to be a reserve FO in IAD for as long as it takes, or you need to lower your expectations, or you need to stop obsessing over stuff and go watch Netflix/drink a bottle of your chosen adult beverage, talk to a therapist, etc..

Or go talk to prior121, who will just yell a bunch of expletives at you and tell you to get yourself together and throw the gear down when he says "GEAR DOWN WHY ARE YOU TALKING BRO?"

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Old 10-10-2014, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Thanks for that explanation dashdriver, appreciate it. So you were a sim instructor?

And is there a source on this DFW thing? If true it'd really hose everyone prepping for a move, unless you're in CLT and want to stay there.
If they don't have any DFW flying yet come Nov. 1st, they'll just put everyone awarded DFW on reserve and deadhead them around the planet covering flying in other bases.

As they say in Battlestar Galactica "All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again."
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Old 10-10-2014, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
New base award announced. I'm just not getting this. 12 FO's moved to IAD, another 30 new-hires were assigned it. Coupled with 17 leaving for DFW, that's still a net gain of 25 to Dulles, which I thought was sufficiently staffed.

As for Phoenix, I thought Standing Bid indicated one permanent spot would open there. Additionally, 11 FO's left Phoenix for other domiciles. So, wouldn't they need 12 people to move there? Only one guy was assigned it... What am I missing?
Dulles has always been used as a "holding" base for new hires, especially people who aren't off IOE/consolidated yet.

Essentially, crew planning uses IAD as a kind of "holding" base for new hires until systemwide upgrades and more senior FOs bidding out of IAD create secondary vacancies in other domiciles for them to fill.

Meanwhile, people who actually want to be in Dulles rise like flotsam/debris bubbling up to the top on a stagnant, very expensive and uncommutable pond in suburban Virginia.

You'll bid out to PHX quicker than anyone has for the last 5 years--you just have to be patient and find a hobby/gf/bf/drink/side job between now and then.
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Old 10-11-2014, 07:35 AM
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Look at the bright side if you do get stuck in Dulles you'll be able to hold a line... Probably a good line far faster than any other base. And you'll be able to get to know all the new flight attendants while you sit in the crew room 12 hours at a time.
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:27 AM
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Thanks for the input, flaps. When I'm in the cockpit, the only thing on my mind is the safety of that flight. Nothing else matters. Right now though, consolidation is nearly done and I'm getting restless sitting reserve for days at a time. That's all. Thanks again for the thoughts and information.
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Thanks for the input, flaps. When I'm in the cockpit, the only thing on my mind is the safety of that flight.
Ever thought about applying to NASA? You are probably the first person to ever have no thoughts outside of what you are doing in the cockpit, ever.
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Old 10-11-2014, 09:12 AM
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You know what I mean.
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Old 10-11-2014, 11:21 AM
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Are they usually doing 2 classes per month or does it just depend?
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:08 PM
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Are they usually doing 2 classes per month or does it just depend?

Two CRJ classes, one E-jet class per month. 46-50 new hires a month.
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:10 PM
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You think you've got problems DJ, I still don't have access to PBS! And doesn't bidding start Monday?
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