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09-30-2014, 09:27 AM
#3201
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I agree, what about this contract?
The first year FO pay is what had me thinking about not coming to fly the Ejet and staying where I am. Now I hear that the new contract has something like a 15% increase that would put it at around $25, no ?
The first year FO pay is what had me thinking about not coming to fly the Ejet and staying where I am. Now I hear that the new contract has something like a 15% increase that would put it at around $25, no ?
09-30-2014, 10:26 AM
#3203
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
$22.16 in 2008 dollars is around $24.50 today. I'm amazed the old contract didn't account for this.
09-30-2014, 05:20 PM
#3204
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This contract I've been hearing about that's "so close". What are they asking for? Is it realistic or are they forgetting they work for Mesa?
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
09-30-2014, 07:34 PM
#3205
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
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This contract I've been hearing about that's "so close". What are they asking for? Is it realistic or are they forgetting they work for Mesa?
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
I'm sorry to anyone who thinks we're going to somehow "raise the bar" at regionals by pricing ourselves out of business, but this is a fundamental truth of the regional airline business that will never change unless:
1) We somehow have a national seniority list (never gonna happen)
or
2) We extricate airlines from the railway labor act (prob never gonna happen)
Anyone who doesn't understand the above is in for the same sore awakening we got at Pinnacle/Endeavor when we got our fancy new contract. I assume the same would be true for Comair, and very soon Eagle, unfortunately.
09-30-2014, 07:57 PM
#3207
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Joined APC: May 2009
Posts: 2,035
New contract = more costly = less flying = less chance of any FOs making CA and earning a living wage
I'm sorry to anyone who thinks we're going to somehow "raise the bar" at regionals by pricing ourselves out of business, but this is a fundamental truth of the regional airline business that will never change unless:
1) We somehow have a national seniority list (never gonna happen)
or
2) We extricate airlines from the railway labor act (prob never gonna happen)
Anyone who doesn't understand the above is in for the same sore awakening we got at Pinnacle/Endeavor when we got our fancy new contract. I assume the same would be true for Comair, and very soon Eagle, unfortunately.
I'm sorry to anyone who thinks we're going to somehow "raise the bar" at regionals by pricing ourselves out of business, but this is a fundamental truth of the regional airline business that will never change unless:
1) We somehow have a national seniority list (never gonna happen)
or
2) We extricate airlines from the railway labor act (prob never gonna happen)
Anyone who doesn't understand the above is in for the same sore awakening we got at Pinnacle/Endeavor when we got our fancy new contract. I assume the same would be true for Comair, and very soon Eagle, unfortunately.
Wow... so sad!
At least you're a wet dream for JO and other management!
10-01-2014, 01:10 AM
#3208
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
He's right. I was just thinking more along the lines of attracting pilots. I know three who are leaving from my class. I might jump ship as well. At this point I'd rather be an FO somewhere else than a captain at Mesa. I guess they're still coming in the door though.
10-01-2014, 03:38 AM
#3209
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Posts: 737
This contract I've been hearing about that's "so close". What are they asking for? Is it realistic or are they forgetting they work for Mesa?
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
Would a contract ever get approved that didn't include a raise for the top-end lifers?
My seniority jumped quite a bit recently, and I don't think it's captains who are leaving.
10-01-2014, 03:49 AM
#3210
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 432
Mesa starting to have staffing problems?
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