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09-22-2014, 07:20 PM

#3111

ScottyDo

Chief Engineer

Joined APC: Aug 2014

Position: CRJ FO

Posts: 815

Thanks guys, I am really shocked I didn't get a troll comment somewhere in there lol.

09-22-2014, 07:26 PM

#3112

Blackwing

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Position: ERJ CA

Posts: 1,082

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fpmx772

So how much time, or downtime, is there between finish Sims and IOE? I have heard other airlines you have like 4+ weeks before your can get IOE going...?

I had about 10 days. Just finished my first IOE trip.

09-22-2014, 07:27 PM

#3113

Blackwing

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Position: ERJ CA

Posts: 1,082

Mesa

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaine

I'm wondering how many manuals new hires are issued. I don't really want to use my big old flight case from the paper Jepp days. It's just so bulky. I'd like to use something smaller, but need to know how many manuals. Any input?

Zero. All digital now. That said, you'll still need a 3-ring binder, everyone ended up with a stack of papers about an inch and a half thick.

09-22-2014, 07:45 PM

#3114

Wileybird

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Joined APC: Aug 2014

Position: Ag pilot

Posts: 32

curiouse what happens if you fail ground or any part of sim? Does that go on your permanent airman file?

09-22-2014, 08:02 PM

#3115

Fpmx772

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwing

I had about 10 days. Just finished my first IOE trip.

How did all your ground and sim training go?

09-22-2014, 08:07 PM

#3116

Blackwing

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Position: ERJ CA

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fpmx772

How did all your ground and sim training go?

It went great, smooth as a baby's ass. Mesa's training dept. is top notch.

09-23-2014, 05:23 AM

#3117

CBreezy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wileybird

curiouse what happens if you fail ground or any part of sim? Does that go on your permanent airman file?

If you fail any part of 121 training, are fired or, as if it matters, asked to resign under other than favorable circumstances (i.e. what Clearance was saying), it is dislosable under PRIA. In fact, failing and receiving retraining under AQP is listed under PRIA as well.

09-23-2014, 05:23 AM

#3118

Xdashdriver

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Joined APC: Oct 2013

Posts: 1,666

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wileybird

curiouse what happens if you fail ground or any part of sim? Does that go on your permanent airman file?

Failing a type ride will result in a notice of disapproval which is a part of your permanent record. As for the other events, I am not sure.

09-23-2014, 06:15 AM

#3119

rickair7777

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Joined APC: Jan 2006

Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim

Posts: 40,382

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottyDo

Thanks guys, I am really shocked I didn't get a troll comment somewhere in there lol.

No, that was a legit question. Different airlines do it differently. I would have upgraded several years sooner if my airline had used age vice SSN to determine in-class seniority.

09-23-2014, 07:42 AM

#3120

blaine

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Position: First Officer

Posts: 121

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackwing

Zero. All digital now. That said, you'll still need a 3-ring binder, everyone ended up with a stack of papers about an inch and a half thick.

Can you please be more specific. How do new hires study the aircraft systems manuals and op specs in training? Are you saying we load huge PDF's on our tablet or something like that? I'm surprised to hear it's ALL electronic.