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Old 08-29-2014, 10:04 PM
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
30-40% failure rate?!?????!!! You do realize that's like 20x the failure rate at any decent regional. Right?

And that's even with a "very, very, forgiving" training department.

Green on barely 1,000hr 121 Captains. What could possibly go wrong?

Funny post 121. You have me ELOHEL'ing.
Yeah you didn't fully read my comment, I stated 30-40% gone over the course of a year which can be a combination background, personality issues, oral, checkride, IOE and online issues.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:49 PM
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All jokes aside.

Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..

Yes still doing phone interviews....

Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)

Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.

So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.

Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.




The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?

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Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
Just wait, lots of guys to not make it thru oral sim and IOE plus the line still...btw, see you in Houston.
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
...btw, see you in Houston.
Only if I am one of the 60-70% that will be making it through I guess
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Old 08-29-2014, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver
The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?

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Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.
The little blurb now on the employee website says 80 FOs have completed training since June 1 and are now online. A bit of math says that if hiring/training was accomplished at the same rate, another 133 pilots should have completed training from Jan 1 thru May 30. Lines up pretty closely with your numbers.

Right now, a CRJ class of 18 starts every two weeks, and a 175 class of 10 starts once a month. So either the company thinks the pilot pool is gonna dry up completely, or more airplanes are coming.
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:29 AM
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Email from HQ yesterday also said 146 pilots have completed training since Jan 1 which seems to jive too.
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
"News at 11, who is REALLY flying your airplane, a disturbing look at a regional airline...."
A situation that could very likely kill you this very instant... tonight on the News at 10.
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Old 08-30-2014, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Both, they're coming folks.

I've never let y'all down with wrong info.
Well, since I am presently left seat in one of those Envoy 700s, I am very curious as to the accuracy of that claim.
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DontEnvoyMe
Well, since I am presently left seat in one of those Envoy 700s, I am very curious as to the accuracy of that claim.
I take it that's a play on "Don'tEnvyMe" ???
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Old 08-30-2014, 06:25 AM
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I take it that's a play on "Don'tEnvyMe" ???
I am just hoping that in a few years it won't have the same meaning as "Don't Comair Me"...
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