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Old 08-29-2014, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 24/48
Ha, good one. Trying to find out for someone else who isn't on the forums. They are just getting current after taking some family time. 2200 TT, 27 ME, 600 LR60 (sim) with ATP & type. Lives in IAH. Is there a written eval, sim, etc for the interview?





Shiner was serious... Sadly, that is the "interview gouge".
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:04 PM
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Is his phone charged? Can he grunt when asked if he can attend a class date ASAP?

Betttttter..... Lol
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All jokes aside.

Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..

Yes still doing phone interviews....

Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)

Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.

So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.

Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
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Old 08-29-2014, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
All jokes aside.

Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..

Yes still doing phone interviews....

Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)

Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.

So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.

Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
Inb4the "2 busts or less + r-ATP mins is a really good resume "
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
30-40% failure rate?!?????!!! You do realize that's like 20x the failure rate at any decent regional. Right?

And that's even with a "very, very, forgiving" training department.

Green on barely 1,000hr 121 Captains. What could possibly go wrong?

Funny post 121. You have me ELOHEL'ing.
When did you wash out at Mesa FaceBiter? It was 2013, right?
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:15 PM
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When did you wash out at Mesa FaceBiter? It was 2013, right?
I knew FaceBiter when he washed out at GoJet. He's a complete failure and tool bag.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
All jokes aside.

Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..

Yes still doing phone interviews....

Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)

Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.

So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.

Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
The training department claims a 90% pass rate, so I am wondering how the 60-70% thing comes into play?

Edit:
Did a little research project. Out of strings of consecutive employee numbers on the seniority list, only 15 missing numbers out of 150 pilots hired up to 6/5/14 since the beginning of the year. That comes out to around 90% of pilots hired are still here. While that is no doubt an imperfect way to calculate it (they seem to skip groups of numbers at the change of the month for some reason), it certainly points more towards a 90% retention than 60-70% in the last 6 months.

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Old 08-29-2014, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Typical. Anyone pointing out the glaring facts must've "washed out" of training.

I hope all you CFI's reading this thread see that 30-40% washout number. Is the shortcut worth a 30-40% chance your career will be forever tarnished?

It should really PO the current employees, the company can't afford a raise but can afford letting a tremendous number wash out of very expensive training.

The only reason Mesa does not interview is to get the otherwise unhireable in the door. It's not to save money on interviewing since they spend many times that in wasted training.

A-mazing.
You would make an excellent news reporter. I don't equate opinion and rumor on internet forum to constitute "glaring facts" but it sure makes for good rhetoric and sensationalism.
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Old 08-29-2014, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)
Mesa is wanting a 4 year degree now? Wow.
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Old 08-29-2014, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
All jokes aside.

Just got a friend hired here..so here's the scoop..

Yes still doing phone interviews....

Gotta know someone on the inside or have a very good resume to get the call with no recommendation. (4 year degree from aviation school, plus ATP mins or ATP-R mins, no more than 2 busts, etc)

Lots of guys getting canned (or
given option to resign) during training, IOE or during first 6 months online. About 60-70% of guys are making it thru ground, system, and IOE.

So as guys have said before your interview is about 12 months, starting the first day of ground continuing all the way to the last day of being a probationary pilot.

Alvin Isaacs and Chuck Campbell are good good guys. Not the airline or chief pilots that were here four years ago.
They called and emailed me 3x with 2000TT, 700TPIC, 800 Multi. All 135. No degree, atp written or recs. Since they aren't screening applicants, I'm sure they get the few that have never seen a jepp approach plate, and haven't flown anything bigger than a Seminole.

I've heard Compass is becoming lenient on the degree and RATPs. Not to start a regional flame war, but I don't believe Mesa is more competitive than Compass.
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