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Old 08-14-2014, 04:52 PM
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So, if someone with 1000 hours 121 time was hired by the end of this year, what would be their upgrade time frame?
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Old 08-14-2014, 04:54 PM
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So, if someone with 1000 hours 121 time was hired by the end of this year, what would be their upgrade time frame?
Most carriers have a matching program. Say the carrier requires 4500 hours in order to be PIC. They may match your time to say, 1500 hours so in reality, you would need only 3000 ACTUAL hours before an upgrade. If you have over that AND 1000 hours of 121 time, I would say your upgrade would be pretty quick at the right airline.
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Originally Posted by corporatedriver
So, if someone with 1000 hours 121 time was hired by the end of this year, what would be their upgrade time frame?
It's too fluid of a situation to say at this point.

Bases are closing, others are opening. That matters because one person may be able to hold say IAD CRJ CA but not DFW CRJ CA.

E175 is staying a bit more senior.

Most junior CRJ CA is #613 on the last (2013 hire.)

Most junior E175 CA is #526 on the list.
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:09 PM
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It's too fluid of a situation to say at this point.

Bases are closing, others are opening. That matters because one person may be able to hold say IAD CRJ CA but not DFW CRJ CA.

E175 is staying a bit more senior.

Most junior CRJ CA is #613 on the last (2013 hire.)

Most junior E175 CA is #526 on the list.
Makes sense.
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Old 08-14-2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by prior121
It's too fluid of a situation to say at this point.

Bases are closing, others are opening. That matters because one person may be able to hold say IAD CRJ CA but not DFW CRJ CA.

E175 is staying a bit more senior.

Most junior CRJ CA is #613 on the last (2013 hire.)

Most junior E175 CA is #526 on the list.
Hey 121, did they bust the seat lock for CA's on the 900?
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It's too fluid of a situation to say at this point.

Bases are closing, others are opening. That matters because one person may be able to hold say IAD CRJ CA but not DFW CRJ CA.

E175 is staying a bit more senior.

Most junior CRJ CA is #613 on the last (2013 hire.)

Most junior E175 CA is #526 on the list.




Hey 121, did they bust the seat lock for CA's on the 900?
Nope. No CRJ CA's can bid E175.
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Old 08-14-2014, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
The best/worst show in aviation. Its where one gets to demonstrate their skills for the better or worse. The real job is like a game of 52 pickup, organizational skills are tested on every leg, some do an outstanding job and some flounder when the script gets mixed up. Most do just fine.
Very interesting! As a simple CFI, why is flying a visual approach on a jet so complicated? Can you treat it as a regular approach using the FD and auto pilot? Or do you usually hand fly the whole approach on raw data.
Again, would love to understand this before my 1st 121 class. Thanks!
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Old 08-14-2014, 06:46 PM
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Very interesting! As a simple CFI, why is flying a visual approach on a jet so complicated? Can you treat it as a regular approach using the FD and auto pilot? Or do you usually hand fly the whole approach on raw data.
Again, would love to understand this before my 1st 121 class. Thanks!
Because you may be at an airport you've never been to, it maybe at night, and your probably going 250knots at 6,000 feet on a 12 mile base where you can't make out the runway.

You have about 30-40 seconds to slow the plane, figure out where the runway is, configure the aircraft and descend safely to the runway at that speed.

Just wait, you'll see. It's amazing how fast stuff happens in the 121 world when all you have is piston/turboprop experience.

I have almost 2000hrs of 121 and I find myself on night visual outstation approaches still uh, "sitting up straight in my seat." If you get what I mean.

That is with the CRJ. The EJET is pretty darn easy. Throw in the 175s VNAV capabilities and autothrottles and visuals are a piece of cake.
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Originally Posted by sevenforseven
Most carriers have a matching program. Say the carrier requires 4500 hours in order to be PIC. They may match your time to say, 1500 hours so in reality, you would need only 3000 ACTUAL hours before an upgrade. If you have over that AND 1000 hours of 121 time, I would say your upgrade would be pretty quick at the right airline.
Mesa's contract essentially allows you to upgrade at whatever the minimum FAA reqs are to be a 121 CA. AKA ATP + the 1000 hours 121/135(k)PIC/etc. time requirement (121.436).
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Originally Posted by Pullout
The Ejet is only 'senior' because of initial cadre. The most junior initial cadre is an 05' hire. It will soon be overwhelmingly junior.
That's incorrect. Look at all the guys holding out for E175 Captain that can and could months a go held CRJ CA.

Look at the master bid sheet
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