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Old 08-13-2014, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PiperPower
Do people with only 121 turboprop time struggle with the training? That's where I'm coming from. What kind of people are struggling/washing out?
Former Dash driver here. If you just pay attention in class, you'll pass. The sim wasn't that hard either.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PiperPower
Do people with only 121 turboprop time struggle with the training? That's where I'm coming from. What kind of people are struggling/washing out?
wait why would you struggle if you already have 121 experience??
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:41 PM
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Some have taken up to 100 hours recently.
If you can't get it by 50 or so hours that's a huge problem. I can't believe they're releasing people to the line that took that much.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:43 PM
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Of the people who struggle, I heard a good chunk have English-as-a-second language difficulties. Understandable. Our class has about 6 or 7 CFI new-hires, myself included. No turbine background at all, we're doing fine. No reason a Dash 8 pilot can't hack it.
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Old 08-13-2014, 08:46 PM
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I've heard quite a bit of accents on the radio most have been fine but ya that another issue having ESL folks in the cockpit if they're not very fluent.
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
If you can't get it by 50 or so hours that's a huge problem. I can't believe they're releasing people to the line that took that much.
Coming from a guy that busted 4 basic checkrides??? Had a lot of respect for SkyWest till they hired you!
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
Some have taken up to 100 hours recently.
Originally Posted by Cruz5350
If you can't get it by 50 or so hours that's a huge problem. I can't believe they're releasing people to the line that took that much.
What's the deal with this? One would assume that if they can pass an ATP-PIC Type ride they would be able to fly the airplane, right? I mean is there something particularly difficult about line flying that isn't seen in simulator training? (genuine question from a soon to be FNG)
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
What's the deal with this? One would assume that if they can pass an ATP-PIC Type ride they would be able to fly the airplane, right? I mean is there something particularly difficult about line flying that isn't seen in simulator training? (genuine question from a soon to be FNG)
Ummm everything!!! It's a whole different world outside the sim.... You'll see...
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Yeah you'll see the first time ATC drops you in high and fast at an out station.
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Old 08-13-2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SMACFUM
What's the deal with this? One would assume that if they can pass an ATP-PIC Type ride they would be able to fly the airplane, right? I mean is there something particularly difficult about line flying that isn't seen in simulator training? (genuine question from a soon to be FNG)
I don't know your background but here's a take.

Realistically they are two separate worlds from sim to when you get online. You're dealing with a lot of operational difficulties as well as ground issues.

When you're in the air you get everything thrown at you where it's not just preprogrammed emergencies and checklists (SIM) it's line oriented flight stuff.
However now you're dealing with different attitudes and different styles. Now you're staying ahead of the plane, dealing with controllers,different,airports,different weather, paperwork, walkarounds,fuel issues, ground programs,frequencies,landings"for real," planning descents where you're already to high...etc.

#1FYI - Being cleared for a visual seems to be the hardest for some guys in a jet...

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