Mesa
08-12-2014, 02:26 PM
#2251
Banned
Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 432
What's the goal in upgrades per month? 16?
08-12-2014, 02:32 PM
#2252
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: Mannin' deez blenps
Posts: 193
08-12-2014, 03:56 PM
#2253
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2011
Position: Cloud surfing
Posts: 492
You might get to jump over some people--all these guys seem to think they're going to fly 1000 hours in a year, but they're projecting off of the status quo, and they aren't considering the effects of ORD closing, CLT closing, cancellations in wintertime, and flying being consolidated into fewer bases--that can and will push some people onto reserve and cause people to fall behind on their "1000 hours in 1 year" fantasy.
I don't want to be a pessimist, just saying a whole lotta new folks seem to think everything is certain and guaranteed, and they haven't even hit IOE yet!!!
I don't want to be a pessimist, just saying a whole lotta new folks seem to think everything is certain and guaranteed, and they haven't even hit IOE yet!!!
So, on average how many hours max can one expect to fly at Mesa? 500? 800?
08-12-2014, 05:17 PM
#2254
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 39
On Mesa's website, it discusses a training contract of 12 months. Straight from the website:
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
08-12-2014, 05:26 PM
#2255
Living the Dream
Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,795
I think that's standard at all the regionals. The only exception I've heard is the Q400 at Republic, because let's be honest, who wants to go do that?
It's effective from the point you pass your 121 checkride.
With the investment they put into training you, I don't think staying a year is unreasonable. Where else would you go, anyway?
It's effective from the point you pass your 121 checkride.
With the investment they put into training you, I don't think staying a year is unreasonable. Where else would you go, anyway?
08-12-2014, 05:54 PM
#2256
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
On Mesa's website, it discusses a training contract of 12 months. Straight from the website:
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
If company emails and the staff I've met are any indication of how Mesa operates, I'm not sure the company is organized enough to come after anyone...or to even know you've resigned for that matter.
Yes, first day of training.
08-12-2014, 05:58 PM
#2257
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 977
On Mesa's website, it discusses a training contract of 12 months. Straight from the website:
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
"Mesa Air Group pilots with less than four (4) years longevity are required to execute a training agreement as a condition for entering into initial, upgrade or transition training. The aircraft assigned determines the promissory note amount. The duration of the note is one year, which prorates equally over the 12-month period. If the obligations of the note are not satisfied, the balance, if any, is then payable by the pilot to the Company."
After reading this, this sounds as you owe Mesa a year of employment. If not, then you must pay them back any training costs at a prorated amount. Anyone from Mesa able to confirm this?
Was recently reading good things about this company, but this caught my attention. It is not like you are receiving a cash bonus for accepting the job.
Also, does this start immediately upon first day of training?
Every single person I know who complained about it was simply using Mesa as a way to get 121 currency and/or a free ATP, and one guy who refused to sign it was asked to leave.
08-12-2014, 06:05 PM
#2258
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 39
I think that's standard at all the regionals. The only exception I've heard is the Q400 at Republic, because let's be honest, who wants to go do that?
It's effective from the point you pass your 121 checkride.
With the investment they put into training you, I don't think staying a year is unreasonable. Where else would you go, anyway?
It's effective from the point you pass your 121 checkride.
With the investment they put into training you, I don't think staying a year is unreasonable. Where else would you go, anyway?
Many guys (a year ahead of me) from my last squadron flew regionals for less than six months, and have all been hired by DAL, AA, and UAL. I will have to ask them if they paid anything back.
Still new to all of this 121 vs 135, and trying to be as informed as possible when I separate from the Navy. This website has been beneficial.
Thanks for the info.
08-12-2014, 06:08 PM
#2259
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2013
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 39
RV5M and flapshalfspeed,
Appreciate the feedback, thanks.
Appreciate the feedback, thanks.
08-12-2014, 06:10 PM
#2260
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
Good point regarding the training investment.
Many guys (a year ahead of me) from my last squadron flew regionals for less than six months, and have all been hired by DAL, AA, and UAL. I will have to ask them if they paid anything back.
Still new to all of this 121 vs 135, and trying to be as informed as possible when I separate from the Navy. This website has been beneficial.
Thanks for the info.
Many guys (a year ahead of me) from my last squadron flew regionals for less than six months, and have all been hired by DAL, AA, and UAL. I will have to ask them if they paid anything back.
Still new to all of this 121 vs 135, and trying to be as informed as possible when I separate from the Navy. This website has been beneficial.
Thanks for the info.
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