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Old 07-31-2014, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Verrrrry nice.

Get people in the door with no interview, then destroy their career with a 121 training failure when they "fail the interview".

Sounds siiik bro.
I'm not sure what world you live in, but not everyone gets to be an airline pilot. If you are a capable individual with a good attitude and hard work ethic then you will make it through. If you have an entitled attitude and want everything handed to you then you won't fare so well here.

What I said is true of any airline job...you have to actually make it through training to get "the job." Yes even at Skywest...
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:39 AM
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I had a recruiter call me after seeing my app on airlineapps. I missed their call when I was flying, so I called back a couple different times within the past week, still haven't heard back from them. What's that all about?




Because they already left all the info you need to show up on your class date in your voicemail.

.......yawn.........
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Old 07-31-2014, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PiperPower
I had a recruiter call me after seeing my app on airlineapps. I missed their call when I was flying, so I called back a couple different times within the past week, still haven't heard back from them. What's that all about?
Just keep calling and if you know someone at the company have them refer you to speed up the process. But they are busy that's all.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by tinman1
I'm not sure what world you live in, but not everyone gets to be an airline pilot. If you are a capable individual with a good attitude and hard work ethic then you will make it through. If you have an entitled attitude and want everything handed to you then you won't fare so well here.

What I said is true of any airline job...you have to actually make it through training to get "the job." Yes even at Skywest...
You're right. Not everyone does. What better way to tell them that than to hire them and fire them at the first sight of weakness. You wouldn't want to waste precious minutes asking technical questions during an interview (establishes a knowledge baseline and level of preparedness) or put them in a sim (do they have adequate instrument skills).

As a CFI, would you put up a private pilot student for a check ride at the minimum hours regardless if you felt they'd pass with the attitude "well if you can't hack it,you should just give up on flying."
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Because it saves money (lol), ya know because dropping people after extra sims is so cheap.

The only way Mesa can get enough people through the door is by literally not having any standards. A percentage of guys are competent, want to go there for bases, a perceived quick upgrade, whatever. Then there's the "others".

Whoo boy.
Yes...those "others" who are sent home to a life of trolling Mesa threads, hating on the people they would've been upgrading with on an EJet in a few short months.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
My concern is with people who need to work at a place with no interview and a "very, very, forgiving" training department.
What do you know about Mesa's training department? Have you ever written a comment about something you have actual knowledge of?
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
I for one am very glad Mesa does things the way they do--if someone can't make it through our very, very forgiving training department, they have no business flying my loved ones (or me) around in a friggin' jet--ever.

I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.

WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
what makes you say mesa is so forgiving?
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
If you were so inclined, you could choose LAX one month then PHX the next then CLT then IAD after that, then Dallas. The only requirement is you have enough seniority for the base.
I wouldn't always count on being able to base hop like that--it only works when we're hiring and needing FOs in all bases.

Two things are going to happen later this year:

1) Last 900s on property
2) FO staffing levels (training bubble) to account for EJet/CRJ upgrades several months out could be achieved

Unless there's a big uptick in attrition or an acceleration of EJet deliveries (which could happen), base hopping might not work.

I'm just saying be cautious when doing that--the current pace of FO hiring and growth can't last forever, and "oh it's just LAX for a month brah" can quickly turn into months, years, lifetimes.

YMMV//just IMHO
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
I for one am very glad Mesa does things the way they do--if someone can't make it through our very, very forgiving training department, they have no business flying my loved ones (or me) around in a friggin' jet--ever.

I'm seriously laughing out loud at how all the Mesa haters have such a chip on their shoulder about how we do interviews.

WHY do you care so much whether this PRIVATE company chooses to wash people out BEFORE or AFTER their hire date. WHYYYYYY?!?!?!??!
I don't care what they do, but I will always be here to inform prospective new hires that this is, in fact, the tactic.

If Mesa were my company, I'd be asking several questions. Why is there an incentive to waste money and resources on candidates that have no right being there in the first place? Is this waste characteristic of other parts of their business plan? Does the company care so little for their people that they risk putting a black mark on your career forever as a ploy to attract as many applicants as possible? In what other ways is the company putting all the risk on my future career and my certificates that all the other cheerleaders are hiding?

My question here is, why do you all immediately come to the defense of Mesa? You are allowed to have a critical opinion and one that is not fed to you by recruiters and managers. It's healthy and might actually eventually lead to contract and QOL gains.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed
Ummmmmm, that's it's very forgiving compared to most other regionals?



Did you want me to?
Maybe you should read who he was quoting.
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