Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo

The only hope that MAG has is to argue that they aren't going to lose the USair contract and that they have worked out a deal with United... Does anyone really think that is going to happen?The judge will look at 2012 when Mesa's majority of aircraft come due for renewal. These contracts will go to a company in good financial standing and willing to fly for less then mesa. We know that other regionals are salivating at the kill. Bottom line, from a purely investment and business perspective it's over.

Originally Posted by winglet

seafeye,

This section of the MAG ALPA collective bargaining agreement was directly in response to the creation of the alter-ego Freedom Airlines. This was the contract that recaptured the alter-ego Freedom Airlines within ALPA and integrated the CCAir pilots from off the street (An act that was performed for the good of the whole and not the individual). This was also at a time when your brothers and sisters at MAG were sending part of their paycheck to Comair's strike fund (You know, the pilots giving ALPA Freedom pilots the finger and denying jumpseats in Cincinnati?).

MAG pilots always believed they could make improvements on the next contract but just when the opportunity rolled around again MAG rapidly lost 700 pilots due to attrition and hired a thousand more 300 hour pilots who were just "happy to be here".

MAG ALPA pilots successfully stopped a GoJet style alter-ego attempt although they paid dearly for it in compensation and quality of life. If only TranStates could have had this section things may have been different in their arena.

If MAG is liquidated, if nothing else, please get a copy of the contract and adopt the first section in your collective bargaining agreement.

Don't worry about MAG pilots. They are some of the best, toughest, and hardest working pilots this side of the Mississippi. They are the ALPA cage-fighters and can take anything any airline management can throw at them. MAG pilots will not only survive but thrive wherever they may land.

winglet

Originally Posted by CollectorPilot

Winglet,

Remember that there are TOOLS at all companies. I have flown with many CA at OH that will serve the airlines better when they retire. However, there are some guys that do care about their ALPA Brothers and Sisters.
I may not agree with Mesa Management But I do wish the best for you all.

Originally Posted by FreighterGuyNow

Latest from the Airways employee exchange:

Bring the Mesa D8's in house at Piedmont.

Renew/ extend the 2012 contract IF all 50 seaters are parked and the 90 seats costs significantly reduced.

Otherwise, replace the flying entirely with another operator or reduce the Mesa block hours and retain another.

Also mentioned (offhand) merging Mesa with PSA .....

FWIW

Originally Posted by seafeye

I believe Kirby said that the 50 seater agreement will not be renewed. So that is over.
As for the 90 seaters? Mesa has to come up with a price that is in line with other regionals. US Airways does not have the money to buy that amount of airframes so someone is going to have to supply them.
Right now my gut tells me it's air wiskey. They can get the funding and the airplanes when mesa goes chapter 7.
The PSA Mesa merger is not a reality.

Originally Posted by Releasemaster

Dockets show agreements have been placed under seal to extend the leases of four DH8 acft. These are the four Hotel Alpha birds and make up the bulk of the PHX DH8 fleet.