Originally Posted by logic1

Why would MESA cancell flights that were going to be counted against them? Think about it....BS.

Originally Posted by logic1

Why would MESA cancell flights that were going to be counted against them? Think about it....BS.

Originally Posted by flyingkangaroo

....... The unemployment office... I'm not trying to be cruel to any fellow pilots. But if you work for mesa you need to be finding yourself another job now. The court and the CREDITORS are likely now seeing that Mesa will not be a viable company. Simply put, if the company doesn't look like it can be reorganized to a profitable position that benefits the creditors more then liquidation then CH7 liquidation is the only option. If you are staying on at Mesa you are likely holding out hope that some company is going to snap you up in bankruptcy. I don't think this will be the case. It cost a ton less and is much less troublesome to just acquire pieces of mesa once they are in full liquidation. Companies would rather hire who they want and newhires significantly reduce casm and increase profit margin.

The only hope that MAG has is to argue that they aren't going to lose the USair contract and that they have worked out a deal with United... Does anyone really think that is going to happen?The judge will look at 2012 when Mesa's majority of aircraft come due for renewal. These contracts will go to a company in good financial standing and willing to fly for less then mesa. We know that other regionals are salivating at the kill. Bottom line, from a purely investment and business perspective it's over.

Originally Posted by willwestwalk

Based on your writing you must be a very smart businessman. Why don't you suggest somewhere for these pilots to work in such a great economy. It must be really easy to find a good job right now.

Originally Posted by paintyourjet

Getting furloughed does have its benifits. Free type rating, unemployment, food stamps, depression, hopelessness, guilt, tears, fear, divorce, child support payments, homelessness, etc.

Originally Posted by willwestwalk

Based on your writing you must be a very smart businessman. Why don't you suggest somewhere for these pilots to work in such a great economy. It must be really easy to find a good job right now.

Originally Posted by winglet

seafeye,

This section of the MAG ALPA collective bargaining agreement was directly in response to the creation of the alter-ego Freedom Airlines. This was the contract that recaptured the alter-ego Freedom Airlines within ALPA and integrated the CCAir pilots from off the street (An act that was performed for the good of the whole and not the individual). This was also at a time when your brothers and sisters at MAG were sending part of their paycheck to Comair's strike fund (You know, the pilots giving ALPA Freedom pilots the finger and denying jumpseats in Cincinnati?).

MAG pilots always believed they could make improvements on the next contract but just when the opportunity rolled around again MAG rapidly lost 700 pilots due to attrition and hired a thousand more 300 hour pilots who were just "happy to be here".

MAG ALPA pilots successfully stopped a GoJet style alter-ego attempt although they paid dearly for it in compensation and quality of life. If only TranStates could have had this section things may have been different in their arena.

If MAG is liquidated, if nothing else, please get a copy of the contract and adopt the first section in your collective bargaining agreement.

Don't worry about MAG pilots. They are some of the best, toughest, and hardest working pilots this side of the Mississippi. They are the ALPA cage-fighters and can take anything any airline management can throw at them. MAG pilots will not only survive but thrive wherever they may land.

winglet

Originally Posted by powrful1

Don't forget giving people 1 day of reserve so they could bleed another day out of you by having a mixed line...I was just wondering about the Delta wind down as to where the DOH for the last guy/gal will be..as in how far the cut will go.