Mesa Air Group Chapter 11 Info
05-17-2010, 03:44 PM
#781
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
He must have saw the writing on the wall then..........good for him.
Still curious though about the rest of the loyal rowers and if those that rowed for DAL can now toss a UAL or U rower into the water and take his spot.
Still curious though about the rest of the loyal rowers and if those that rowed for DAL can now toss a UAL or U rower into the water and take his spot.
05-17-2010, 04:10 PM
#782
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: back in the right
Posts: 406
Actually, he's been one of the craftiest.
He's suckered in boatload after boatload of [edit: humans] to jump on the ship he was steering and break their butts for him, tolerating a stunning level of disrespect, yet still rowing with everything they had until they collapsed.
And so it is................
He's suckered in boatload after boatload of [edit: humans] to jump on the ship he was steering and break their butts for him, tolerating a stunning level of disrespect, yet still rowing with everything they had until they collapsed.
And so it is................
Last edited by TonyWilliams; 05-17-2010 at 09:47 PM.
05-17-2010, 04:22 PM
#783
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: G550 & CL300 PIC
Posts: 370
This is from Pacer. It is docket entry 180 in the Mesa v Delta file. The Clerk's judgment in favor of Delta is docket entry 181.
Here is the operative portion of the judgment:
"J U D G M E N T
This action having come before the court, Honorable Clarence Cooper, United States
District Judge at a bench trial on the merits on April 20-23, 2010, pursuant to an agreement
of the parties that the instant case proceed to trial notwithstanding Plaintiff’s bankruptcy filing,
and the court having found in favor of Defendant, it is
Ordered and Adjudged that judgment is hereby entered in favor of defendant Delta
Air Lines, Inc. against plaintiffs Mesa Air Group, Inc. and Freedom Airlines, Inc. for damages
In the amount of $2,938,723.00.
Dated at Atlanta, Georgia, this 17th day of May, 2010
Here is the operative portion of the judgment:
"J U D G M E N T
This action having come before the court, Honorable Clarence Cooper, United States
District Judge at a bench trial on the merits on April 20-23, 2010, pursuant to an agreement
of the parties that the instant case proceed to trial notwithstanding Plaintiff’s bankruptcy filing,
and the court having found in favor of Defendant, it is
Ordered and Adjudged that judgment is hereby entered in favor of defendant Delta
Air Lines, Inc. against plaintiffs Mesa Air Group, Inc. and Freedom Airlines, Inc. for damages
In the amount of $2,938,723.00.
Dated at Atlanta, Georgia, this 17th day of May, 2010
source: MESAQ - Mesa Air Group, Inc. - Page 147 - HotStockMarket Message Boards
source: Public Access to Court Electronic Records
05-17-2010, 04:39 PM
#784
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: EMB145
Posts: 772
from JO
It is with extreme disappointment and a heavy heart that I share the following news with you. Earlier today we received notice that Judge Cooper in Atlanta had effectively reversed his earlier decision and ruled against us in the Delta litigation. Needless to say we are all very surprised that the judge determined Delta had the right to terminate our agreement solely on the basis that, in good faith and as good partners, we cancelled our flights at their request to make way for their flights during periods of irregular ops. We, the company and our people, are effectively being “punished” retroactively because we did what they asked us to do. I can tell you without equivocation that I was told directly by their Chief Operating Officer that cancellations we took at their request would not be held against us. This individual testified he said that as well. I am truly at a loss as to how this outcome is the intent of the law. Below you will find a press release that will be issued shortly.
We are in the process of evaluating our options and have not determined how this decision will impact the company. We will keep you fully informed as more information becomes available. In the mean time, we can only focus on those areas within our control by continuing to run a safe, on time airline in the service of our code share partners. I would like to thank each of you, and in particular our people at Freedom for your outstanding work through the very difficult environment we have experienced over the last two years. In spite of what we believe to be an incorrect decision by the Court, I remain as confident as ever that your professionalism and dedication will provide a strong foundation for the future and will serve as the basis for our return to success. As always feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Most sincerely,
Jonathan
It is with extreme disappointment and a heavy heart that I share the following news with you. Earlier today we received notice that Judge Cooper in Atlanta had effectively reversed his earlier decision and ruled against us in the Delta litigation. Needless to say we are all very surprised that the judge determined Delta had the right to terminate our agreement solely on the basis that, in good faith and as good partners, we cancelled our flights at their request to make way for their flights during periods of irregular ops. We, the company and our people, are effectively being “punished” retroactively because we did what they asked us to do. I can tell you without equivocation that I was told directly by their Chief Operating Officer that cancellations we took at their request would not be held against us. This individual testified he said that as well. I am truly at a loss as to how this outcome is the intent of the law. Below you will find a press release that will be issued shortly.
We are in the process of evaluating our options and have not determined how this decision will impact the company. We will keep you fully informed as more information becomes available. In the mean time, we can only focus on those areas within our control by continuing to run a safe, on time airline in the service of our code share partners. I would like to thank each of you, and in particular our people at Freedom for your outstanding work through the very difficult environment we have experienced over the last two years. In spite of what we believe to be an incorrect decision by the Court, I remain as confident as ever that your professionalism and dedication will provide a strong foundation for the future and will serve as the basis for our return to success. As always feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Most sincerely,
Jonathan
05-17-2010, 05:12 PM
#785
2 days off
Joined APC: Jun 2009
Position: Embraer Systems Analyst
Posts: 1,853
from JO
It is with extreme disappointment and a heavy heart that I share the following news with you. Earlier today we received notice that Judge Cooper in Atlanta had effectively reversed his earlier decision and ruled against us in the Delta litigation. Needless to say we are all very surprised that the judge determined Delta had the right to terminate our agreement solely on the basis that, in good faith and as good partners, we cancelled our flights at their request to make way for their flights during periods of irregular ops. We, the company and our people, are effectively being “punished” retroactively because we did what they asked us to do. I can tell you without equivocation that I was told directly by their Chief Operating Officer that cancellations we took at their request would not be held against us. This individual testified he said that as well. I am truly at a loss as to how this outcome is the intent of the law. Below you will find a press release that will be issued shortly.
We are in the process of evaluating our options and have not determined how this decision will impact the company. We will keep you fully informed as more information becomes available. In the mean time, we can only focus on those areas within our control by continuing to run a safe, on time airline in the service of our code share partners. I would like to thank each of you, and in particular our people at Freedom for your outstanding work through the very difficult environment we have experienced over the last two years. In spite of what we believe to be an incorrect decision by the Court, I remain as confident as ever that your professionalism and dedication will provide a strong foundation for the future and will serve as the basis for our return to success. As always feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Most sincerely,
Jonathan
It is with extreme disappointment and a heavy heart that I share the following news with you. Earlier today we received notice that Judge Cooper in Atlanta had effectively reversed his earlier decision and ruled against us in the Delta litigation. Needless to say we are all very surprised that the judge determined Delta had the right to terminate our agreement solely on the basis that, in good faith and as good partners, we cancelled our flights at their request to make way for their flights during periods of irregular ops. We, the company and our people, are effectively being “punished” retroactively because we did what they asked us to do. I can tell you without equivocation that I was told directly by their Chief Operating Officer that cancellations we took at their request would not be held against us. This individual testified he said that as well. I am truly at a loss as to how this outcome is the intent of the law. Below you will find a press release that will be issued shortly.
We are in the process of evaluating our options and have not determined how this decision will impact the company. We will keep you fully informed as more information becomes available. In the mean time, we can only focus on those areas within our control by continuing to run a safe, on time airline in the service of our code share partners. I would like to thank each of you, and in particular our people at Freedom for your outstanding work through the very difficult environment we have experienced over the last two years. In spite of what we believe to be an incorrect decision by the Court, I remain as confident as ever that your professionalism and dedication will provide a strong foundation for the future and will serve as the basis for our return to success. As always feel free to contact me if you have any questions.
Most sincerely,
Jonathan
05-17-2010, 05:25 PM
#786
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 194
How do you figure that? AA and CAL scope have no provisions for larger regional aircraft than they already have, especially CAL. XJT and AE aren't going anywhere soon - trust me.
05-17-2010, 05:35 PM
#787
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Posts: 2,551
05-17-2010, 06:48 PM
#789
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 510
Look for CAL to replace express jet with Colgan as the drawdown allows.
05-17-2010, 08:13 PM
#790
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Posts: 638
Eagle, well I don't know what they have planned but I seriously doubt the APA folks are going to relax scope any more unless they throw the world's largest bone to the pilots. Even then, it's been proven time and again that relaxing scope just shoots you in the foot later.
In either case, 50 seaters are dead like T-props were in the '90s. They might shrink the fleet but they'll never be gone. They have their place just like all the various sized airliners out there.
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