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Old 01-27-2010, 06:15 AM
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+1 on the good work Winglet
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by winglet
Mesa Air Group received relief today on providing financial reports to the court until the later of March 5th or five days prior to the Section 341 Meeting. This is one of the only meetings MAG will have to personally attend during the proceedings. This is the meeting where MAG will have to "fairly and honestly" represent their assets, income and debts under oath before the creditors and the trustee. This information will be vital in helping all parties to the bankruptcy determine the viability of MAG. (Remember those "skeletons" I was talking about? MAG better come clean before the courts or the trustee and creditors may not be inclined to restructure).

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Old 01-27-2010, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by winglet
The Duke,

Thanks, I was beginning to think I was wasting my time. The thing that got me started on this was all the misinformation and wild rumors out there. I enjoy "mythbusting". I like to deal in facts. I've learned alot myself by posting. This forum can be a good thing if you ignore all the trolls and flame bait.

As for Mesa, a lot of things are going to transpire over the next couple of months. I'm going to try and stay informed. One thing is certain: If Mesa survives this, then it will be a very different company and anything goes after that. At this time all options remain on the table.

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Old 01-27-2010, 10:06 AM
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They are also VERY forward-thinking. They can be incredibly short-sighted, but they are VERY capable of looking well down the road and making business decisions today based on strong foresight. .

Yea forward thinking. Like getting more airplanes with contracts that expire way before the airplane leases. Starting ventures that never worked. All for upping the stock. You really really have to try to bankrupt a regional airline since all income is guaranteed as long as you perform right and the partner doesn't liquidate.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Clocks
You're not wasting your time. The only reason I read this thread is to flip through to your updates.
Same here. Thanks
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Originally Posted by winglet
Mesa Air Group received relief today on providing financial reports to the court until the later of March 5th or five days prior to the Section 341 Meeting. This is one of the only meetings MAG will have to personally attend during the proceedings. This is the meeting where MAG will have to "fairly and honestly" represent their assets, income and debts under oath before the creditors and the trustee. This information will be vital in helping all parties to the bankruptcy determine the viability of MAG. (Remember those "skeletons" I was talking about? MAG better come clean before the courts or the trustee and creditors may not be inclined to restructure).

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Has the section 341 meeting been scheduled?
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by winglet
Mesa filed a motion today to "reject, abandon, transfer title, or surrender and return excess equipment"
Hearing scheduled Feb. 9th.

The exhibits include:

Excess Leased Equipment to be Rejected Immediatley

2 GE CF34-3B1
1 GE CF34-8C1
1 RR AE3007
1 GE CF34-8C5


Excess Leased Equipment to be Rejected on Date to be Determined, Subject to Further Notice

16 DHC 8-202
46 CL-600-2B19
12 CL-600-2C10
25 CL-600-2D24
35 ERJ 145


Owned Equipment that May be Subsequently Abandoned

2 CL-600-2B19
8 CL-600-2C10
13 CL-600-2D24


Key words:

"rejected immediately"
"subject to further notice"
"may be subsequently abandoned"


Translation:

Mesa Management's message to Creditors: "You'll take some of these off our backs or we'll dump 'em all on ya!"

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That is a lot of airplanes, what would they even have left?
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
That is a lot of airplanes, what would they even have left?
That's pretty much everything. They are trying to get advance permission to dump anything and everything, so they can hold that over the lender's heads. OJ wants to sit at the negotiating table with a grenade in each hand, no pins.

Reality is if the dump the 700 and 900's they are going directly to Ch.7.
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PinnacleFO
That is a lot of airplanes, what would they even have left?
See post #193

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Old 01-27-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by winglet
See post #193

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I think we are saying the same thing?
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