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Old 01-30-2011, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Marticat
..."UA just canned YVs ass from that flying".... and replaced it with 50 seat flying from ExpressJet and ASA
well said, as far as i know the e145 is more weight restricted than the crj2. I think UA did not renew YV 50 seat, because the quality of service that YV gave, just like DAL or J.O and his minions did not replaced on time the crj2 for the crj7. Since they were busy in hawaii with their lawsuit and alter ego go!. IMO

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Old 01-30-2011, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163

Also a CRJ900 is a 900. To have a contract that would POSSIBLY let you get paid less is insane. I surely hope your contract does not allow this to be done.
Newsflash dude, quite a few airlines' payscales are tied to the seats on-board, not the actual plane. Hence why RAH is only operating 99 seats on an E190.
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Old 01-30-2011, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CamYZ125
Newsflash dude, quite a few airlines' payscales are tied to the seats on-board, not the actual plane. Hence why RAH is only operating 99 seats on an E190.
News flash for you a lot of your better contracts have weights in them as well. In addition a lot of SCOPE is written by the way the aircraft was orginally configured..... Also the RAH thing to my knowledge was going to see arbitration.....

Either way if your CRJ900's are 76 seats that is still more then a CRJ700 at 70 seats is it not? Or do they not teach math these days where 76 is indeed more then 70? Side note I know my airline has a large aircraft agreement.... Doesnt say seats it states aircraft and I would say its only an average company when talked about between others.... Last time I checked Mesa's last contract was spread through out ALPA as an "industry leading" contract no?
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Old 01-30-2011, 08:34 PM
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alpa can boast whatever they want about any of their leading industry contracts. They dont anywhere, whether regional, or major, and you can debate cargo with fedex and ups. All I can say is that mesa has some of the best, hardworking, and wonderful people around. Mesa management has made many mistakes in the past, but i wouldnt attack the pilots. Their lack of "product" and apparent math skills? Hard working group that gets beat up! I wish nothing but the best for everyone at mesa and every airline.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
Also the RAH thing to my knowledge was going to see arbitration.....
I believe they lost.
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by meyers9163
News flash for you a lot of your better contracts have weights in them as well. In addition a lot of SCOPE is written by the way the aircraft was orginally configured..... Also the RAH thing to my knowledge was going to see arbitration.....

Either way if your CRJ900's are 76 seats that is still more then a CRJ700 at 70 seats is it not? Or do they not teach math these days where 76 is indeed more then 70? Side note I know my airline has a large aircraft agreement.... Doesnt say seats it states aircraft and I would say its only an average company when talked about between others.... Last time I checked Mesa's last contract was spread through out ALPA as an "industry leading" contract no?

MAG's UAX CRJ700s carry 66 seats (6 First Clast 60 coach)
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Old 01-31-2011, 03:47 PM
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Never mind...........
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Old 02-01-2011, 09:44 AM
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I was reading this thread to find out more on the mesa bankruptcy and details of emerging from it. I did find some posts that were off the subject which is ok.

I wanted to respond to one of those posts. Someone said that they feel bad if the crj 900 pay for the captain goes away, due to the adding of first class or something to that nature.

This is sad, because they deserve it. However........................................... .................... The most important point overlooked is that:

1. FO's never even got a penny of 900 pay to begin with
2. FO's don't make a livable income.............as compared to a captain. (its hard to swallow not making a living income, while a captain does, and then a captain gets increased money on top of his/her livable income while a fo makes none)
3. last time I checked the 121 ops are a two pilot operation

I am all for the captains making more money, they deserve it 100 percent. However in order of importance, the FO needs to be considered first as he/she make a pittiful income. Its like a checklist, you do things in a certain order and of importance.

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Old 02-01-2011, 09:47 AM
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In my earlier post, I mentioned that "this is sad, because they deserve it"

In other words, this is sad that company may try to take their money away, because the captains deserve the money 100 percent for all of their sacrifice and hard work.
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looks like effective date of new company is February 7, 2011..


Mesa Air Group Appoints New General Counsel

2:29 PM ET 1/28/11 | BusinessWire

Mesa Air Group, Inc. (the "Company") today announced the appointment of Christopher J. Pappaioanou as General Counsel and Corporate Secretary of Mesa Air Group effective February 7, 2010. Mr. Pappaioanou succeeds Brian Gillman, who announced his resignation to pursue other opportunities within the aviation industry.

"I would first like to thank Brian on behalf of the entire company for his 10 years of dedicated service, leadership, sound advice and warm friendship. Brian's astute skills guided the company through its restructuring, and we truly wish him well in his new endeavor," said Jonathan Ornstein, Mesa Air Group Chairman and CEO. "Brian has a bright future in the industry, and his friendship means a great deal to us all," added Ornstein.

"I would also like to congratulate Chris on assuming the role of airline's chief legal officer, having served in the Company's legal department since 2001. Throughout his career at Mesa, Chris has held leadership roles over a variety of legal matters relating to labor, employment, litigation and regulatory affairs and has been a valued member of the Company's management team," continued Ornstein.

Pappaioanou has served a variety of roles within Mesa's Legal and Human Resources departments since joining the Company in 2001. Prior to working at Mesa, he was an associate at the national law firm Ogletree Deakins working in the firm's Charleston, S.C., office.

Pappaioanou holds a Bachelor of Science degree from Ball State University and a J.D. from Indiana University School of Law in Bloomington, Indiana.

Mesa currently operates 76 aircraft with approximately 450 daily system departures to 94 cities, 38 states, the District of Columbia, and Mexico. Mesa operates as US Airways Express and United Express under contractual agreements with US Airways and United Airlines, respectively, and independently as go! Mokulele. This operation links Honolulu to the neighbor island airports of Hilo, Kahului, Kona and Lihue. The Company was founded by Larry and Janie Risley in New Mexico in 1982.

SOURCE: Mesa Air Group

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