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Old 09-21-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotrob23
gotcha. I didnt know if airways was getting rid of the 200s that are left as well. Could there b an increase in flying at all, whether 900's, etc.
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This is just the reorganization plan. There are many more hurdles to jump before the final decree (objections, acceptance, discharge, modifications, etc.).

A few things to consider:

This plan places six creditor selected directors on the nine member MAG BOD and allows US Airways at least a 10% stake on top of what influence they may already possess. The current MAG management will not have the absolute power they once enjoyed. If this plan or anything like it is approved, then the reorganized MAG will be a very different company.

Then, on top of all that, there still exists the possibility of a post-restructure merger/acquisition scenario.

Stay tuned and good luck,

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thanx as always. I cant follow all that jumbo on epiq, thanx again for breaking it down for all. Good luck to everyone and fly safe
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doug will make it a happy place for all
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:06 PM
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glad to see the board will be comprised of folks who's main interest isn't being JO's cronies

so instead of jo giving usair 100 million (was it in 2005?) for the 900 flying and stock in usair, he winds up giving them shares in mesa

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Old 09-21-2010, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by winglet
pilotrob23,

This is just the reorganization plan. There are many more hurdles to jump before the final decree (objections, acceptance, discharge, modifications, etc.).

A few things to consider:

This plan places six creditor selected directors on the nine member MAG BOD and allows US Airways at least a 10% stake on top of what influence they may already possess. The current MAG management will not have the absolute power they once enjoyed. If this plan or anything like it is approved, then the reorganized MAG will be a very different company.

Then, on top of all that, there still exists the possibility of a post-restructure merger/acquisition scenario.

Stay tuned and good luck,

winglet
Winglet,

I have heard the proposed plan sets Mesa up to be sold. There may be truth to that if the creditors agreed on this plan as it was written.

What is your take on this?
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:45 AM
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Winglet,

I have heard the proposed plan sets Mesa up to be sold. There may be truth to that if the creditors agreed on this plan as it was written.

What is your take on this?

Skywest buys Mesa out of B/K and gets the contract flying with Airways till 2015- JO gets his stock (per POR) probably his golden parachute- Mesa's flying continues as is sans interruption- Airways makes money selling their ownership in Mesa (per POR) to Skywest - this scenario would explain the creditors committee going along with this POR and it's giving money to someone like JO- its the best way for the creditors to recuperate the largest amount of money.
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Originally Posted by Releasemaster
Winglet,

I have heard the proposed plan sets Mesa up to be sold. There may be truth to that if the creditors agreed on this plan as it was written.

What is your take on this?
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It is plausible. If this plan is accepted, MAG will be a profitable company with a desirable fleet type and a structured plan to pay off debts. The BOD will consist of a majority of directors appointed by the creditors. The creditors and US Airways will also receive the majority of the new issue stock. MAG management, with 10% of the new issue stock, will be in a weak position to prevent a possible M/A.

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p.s. Did you see the big reveal of Nilchii, Inc. in the disclosure statement? Apparently MAG loaned Spirit $15 million in 2006 resulting in a valuation of the investment at $61.4 to $95.6 million.

Hint: Indigo Partners, Oaktree Capital Investment, and William A. Franke .

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Originally Posted by winglet
Releasemaster,

It is plausible. If this plan is accepted, MAG will be a profitable company with a desirable fleet type and a structured plan to pay off debts. The BOD will consist of a majority of directors appointed by the creditors. The creditors and US Airways will also receive the majority of the new issue stock. MAG management, with 10% of the new issue stock, will be in a weak position to prevent a possible M/A.

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p.s. Did you see the big reveal of Nilchii, Inc. in the disclosure statement? Apparently MAG loaned Spirit $15 million in 2006 resulting in a valuation of the investment at $61.4 to $95.6 million.

Hint: Indigo Partners, Oaktree Capital Investment, and William A. Franke .

SKW INC will probably not touch mesa with only four years on the airways contract. They have historically been very leery about acquiring hardware with any significant tail risk. It's remotely possible that the street value of the 900's would be enough to make it worthwhile...I'm not sure how beat up those units are today.
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Has USAirways and Mesa already agreed on the stock/extension of flying? It seems like Mesa stock isn't worth it. Was it 2 cents before it was delisted?
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Has USAirways and Mesa already agreed on the stock/extension of flying? It seems like Mesa stock isn't worth it. Was it 2 cents before it was delisted?
A 3 year extension for 900 and DH8 is being finalized. The POR, if accepted, will give LCC 10% of the new Mesa stock. The current stock is worthless as all remaining shares will be liquidated uoon reemergance of Mesa.

Please note the approval of the part giving 10% to LCC may be the lynch pin in making the extension a done deal.
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