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Mesa Air Group, Inc. Announces Update on CRJ-200s Operating at United Airlines

Not all flying, just the CRJ 200 stuff

Well at least for now it looks this way. Im sure Mesa would renew the deal in a heartbeat at Uniteds request if they asked.

travelnate

actually no... the CRJ 200 ops are marginal at best.. which is why USAirways also had YV pull out all 50 seat flying from PHX (why fly a 50 seater when the 86 seaters only cost a bit more..).

Word from my close buddies at the Crystal Palace is that some of the 50 seaters will end up in Hawai'i, some may enter into new pro-rates, and the rest will be sent back to the lessors.

however, this does mean a job loss, and that's never a good sign, regardless of which airline is scratched on the paint by the door.

DeadStick

I think you've been misinformed on that; there are still several 200's in PHX.

Mesa's cuts will be far deeper than any other regional out there. I predict by May '10 our most junior FO will be at best a May '06 hire. That's right, the most junior FO at the company will probably be on 5th year pay. Of course, this is assuming we survive, which I think we (or they) will.

sulkair

How many crews do you think they will cut per aircraft parked? 3,4,or 5?

IrishTiger

This just sucks. Totally confirmed my job loss (and hundreds more I would imagine behind me).

newarkblows

I dont think anything is official yet. The extension was not granted for those aircraft but that just means that United felt that they could renegotiate better rates and a better contract. There has been a bidding war going on between xjt, tsa, skywest, and mesa for this contract. Your contract wasn't renewed but there could still be a "new" mesa contract with cheaper rates but with the same old airplanes. Same thing could very well go for the Dash's as well.
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you never know. The ASA 13 aircraft thing and the TSA recalls are not good signs for mesa to continue this flying.

Boomer

Delta has already cut Comair that deep, but instead of a quick stab ours is from a hundred papercuts on top of one another.

Our 2005 contract specified 199 aircraft. Next year we'll be at 85.

IrishTiger

Good on ya for being optimistic, or at least trying to cheer us up. But seriously - it's over. Unless UAL doesn't care one bit about their product (I mean not even a teensy tiny bit) then we will not be signing a new contract. I am embarrassed to work for Mesa most days. Our planes are so crappy, torn up, broke down and it just rolls down hill as our performance numbers suffer. If JO, Lotz and cronies would have put just a LITTLE investment into our operation to keep our planes halfway decent, our performance would have been a heck of a lot better. In fact, towards the end, if we cut out like 7 D-0 events a day, we'd go from last, to first.... according to management (take it with a grain of salt now). But, they just wanted to keep cutting back, and before long, they had a poor operation based on crappy airplanes.

It's a shame to see. The Mesa pilots put a lot of effort into this. I worked really hard to do the best I could. The rest of our folks did too. We could have had something good here.

You guys only have 85 airplanes?!?!??! OMG I didn't realize it was that bad over there! Holy moly.

NoJoy

And it may get worse with the new FA rotation based on their rest requirements. Expect even more crew delays on the UA side.

Drums4life

There is definitely no future with Mesa. The Delta stuff is done with in 2 years and thats another 22 airplanes. Crazy how our seniority list went from 1800 pilots and will go to about 800 or less in 1.5 years.