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Old 01-20-2023, 12:14 PM
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Does Mesa have any monthly commuter room provisions in the current contract under negotiation?

Also, anyone know of any cheap commuter hotels near IAH (not crash pads).

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Old 01-20-2023, 12:54 PM
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Does Mesa have any monthly commuter room provisions in the current contract under negotiation?

Also, anyone know of any cheap commuter hotels near IAH (not crash pads).

Thanks.

Look for the solid white cargo van with no windows in the economy parking lot . The guy might be holding a puppy and a bag of candy .
I don’t know if it’s true or not , but I’ve heard this guy will let you spend a few nights in his van free of charge , but it may be a little bartering involved on your part 😂🤣😂
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Look for the solid white cargo van with no windows in the economy parking lot . The guy might be holding a puppy and a bag of candy .
I don’t know if it’s true or not , but I’ve heard this guy will let you spend a few nights in his van free of charge , but it may be a little bartering involved on your part 😂🤣😂
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Does Mesa have any monthly commuter room provisions in the current contract under negotiation?

Also, anyone know of any cheap commuter hotels near IAH (not crash pads).

Thanks.
No. They don't have any commuter hotels and reserve rules are one of the worst at the regionals.

They only have a "cannot commute" policy in the contract. That's all. Used 4x a year, need to list yourself on 2 flights, and if unable to commute, call crew tracking.
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No. They don't have any commuter hotels and reserve rules are one of the worst at the regionals.

They only have a "cannot commute" policy in the contract. That's all. Used 4x a year, need to list yourself on 2 flights, and if unable to commute, call crew tracking.

Commuter hotels are pretty standard in contracts nowadays and I expect our union to fight for them. I’m not at all confident they will.
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Commuter hotels are pretty standard in contracts nowadays and I expect our union to fight for them. I’m not at all confident they will.
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I mean airport ready reserve is starting to be a thing of the past as well. Acmi or other regionals like envoy dosnt have it.

Envoy guys hit the gym, go snow boarding, and chill with family till they get a call 12 hours in advance. Mesa guys are stuck at the airport terminal, eating overpriced Airport junk food for 10 hrs a time, 4-6 days straight, without any flights.

Airlines like republic provide positive space travel for thier commuting pilots.

Reserve and commuting are two big QOL things that need updating.
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I mean airport ready reserve is starting to be a thing of the past as well. Acmi or other regionals like envoy dosnt have it.

Envoy guys hit the gym, go snow boarding, and chill with family till they get a call 12 hours in advance. Mesa guys are stuck at the airport terminal, eating overpriced Airport junk food for 10 hrs a time, 4-6 days straight, without any flights.

Airlines like republic provide positive space travel for thier commuting pilots.

Reserve and commuting are two big QOL things that need updating.
I see what you did there….. cherry pick the best items from other airlines and present them as if all of it together is now industry standard. Advice: The sooner you figure out that you are not supposed to stay at a regional, the better off you are.

Regarding the union. Most regionals have a more comfortable environment for the lifers. They are stuck there either by life choices or career mistakes. They can make a decent living, work a good schedule, and enjoy easier commutes by being able to move bases. I know lifers who used to work PHX in the winter and East Coast in the summer. Those are the pilots the union should focus on representing. Not the pilot who comes in for a year or two and is gone.

When I first started at Air Midwest, Larry Risley and JO used to take pilots who had a good track record and had been there for more than maybe 5 years to lunch. They would ask them where they would like to work next and then would call their contacts at those companies to help that pilot move on. Risley said, “you are costing me too much at this point and I need you to move on.” This example is not at all applicable today, because Pilot costs are no longer the biggest cost center in the business. However, the point is still valid. Go to the regional, get some time, move on to your next adventure. At no point in my life, has the move on part been easier. To get mired in the muck of envy of other contracts just delays your moving on. Instead of complaining, join a union committee, become a ground school instructor then sim instructor part time, become a safety committee member, etc. Do anything to enhance your chances of getting out earlier. Until then? Suck it up cupcake!

Now, would someone on here please let the OP know if there are cheap hotels or crash pads in IAH?
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I’m with you. Where are the hotels? I’m
Heading to IAH.
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I see what you did there….. cherry pick the best items from other airlines and present them as if all of it together is now industry standard. Advice: The sooner you figure out that you are not supposed to stay at a regional, the better off you are.

Regarding the union. Most regionals have a more comfortable environment for the lifers. They are stuck there either by life choices or career mistakes. They can make a decent living, work a good schedule, and enjoy easier commutes by being able to move bases. I know lifers who used to work PHX in the winter and East Coast in the summer. Those are the pilots the union should focus on representing. Not the pilot who comes in for a year or two and is gone.

When I first started at Air Midwest, Larry Risley and JO used to take pilots who had a good track record and had been there for more than maybe 5 years to lunch. They would ask them where they would like to work next and then would call their contacts at those companies to help that pilot move on. Risley said, “you are costing me too much at this point and I need you to move on.” This example is not at all applicable today, because Pilot costs are no longer the biggest cost center in the business. However, the point is still valid. Go to the regional, get some time, move on to your next adventure. At no point in my life, has the move on part been easier. To get mired in the muck of envy of other contracts just delays your moving on. Instead of complaining, join a union committee, become a ground school instructor then sim instructor part time, become a safety committee member, etc. Do anything to enhance your chances of getting out earlier. Until then? Suck it up cupcake!

Now, would someone on here please let the OP know if there are cheap hotels or crash pads in IAH?
Contrary to the usual BS around here, this is one of the best posts I've read for a while. Very insightful and good information. Thanks for the knowledge.

Cheap hotels near IAH...........
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