idlethrust

if Awac powers to be were smart , they would abandon trying to acquire old beat up 900s and add the 175 to their cert. if Mesa goes away someone will have to fly those birds .

terks43

it’s not going away. The American side is but the United side is staying as is. Contracting, yes. Disappearing, no. But honestly The airline was staffed for 80 aircraft when I left, not the 120 they were trying to operate.

And honestly when I left it was painfully obvious the AA contract was on the way out. Anyone surprised by this has simply not been paying attention.

GPullR

Sorry, scope doesn't allow it.

CrewRoomLize

Sorry, you're wrong. It’s done.

CFIsoonToBeFO

Re-read your email. It says they are finalizing a plan. It is NOT DONE. That is an email by management to keep everyone from quitting till they close the doors.

dera

If there is no pathway for the UA scope, Ornstein should go to prison. Mesa is a publicly traded company, you legally cannot say these "best deal ever" things unless you materially know them to be true.

gomissedagain

I think Kirby is smart enough to have figured out scope issues before subsidizing Mesa’s entire pilot payroll (AA and UA sides) back in September. This has been in the works for a while.

CrewRoomLize

Scope is a ratio or narrow bodies to RJs. As the max deliveries increase scope caps will increase. A CEO of a publicly traded company can’t make public statements that will materially affect the value of the stock if they aren’t factual. It’s been negotiated. It’s done. If you don’t like it that’s your problem.

Amg4me

This is correct, in an email to employees from JO, in part, stated that Mesa is finalizing a new agreement with United which would transfer the CRJs currently flying for AE to United Express. United is expected to maintain all existing domiciles and maintenances bases currently operated by AA and plans to add Denver as a domicile and Houston as a CRJ domicile. He says that as a result of the planned transition of the CRUs "we have ensured not only all of the jobs associated with flying but the future of our company."

Seems it is now clear about the bankruptcy rumor after AA refused to subsidize pay increases. As Pangolin said, part of a chess game. And it seems pretty clear now why Mesa missed its 10-K filing with this happening, i.e., losing the AA flying, and the agreement with United. I hope the agreement with United is finalized, as Mesa is really at the mercy of United now. But I would think they are trying to get that finalized before filing the 10-K. Let's hope that happens for Mesa's sake, weren't we talking about mergers? ;-)

CFIsoonToBeFO

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.