c17driver69

Currently at the training center. The VP announced that both Ornstein and Kirby are coming to talk to us.

Hedley

I don’t think that they’re sunk, they’re just going to be much smaller. JO is like a cockroach who could survive a nuclear holocaust.

WHACKMASTER

Genuinely no disrespect to Mesa pilots, but the writing is on the wall. Sometimes when you’re wrapped up in a situation you can’t see the obvious (been there), but for those of us on the outside looking in, I think I speak for many that it’s not looking good.

c17driver69

My apps are polished and sent out

klondike

My Lord, you are delusional.

You do realize that Mesa is still obligated to staff the -900’s and keep the folks who fly them trained for another three and a half months?

Ask yourself why CRJ training hasn’t halted.

klondike

Yes, he does.

His mind is in a different universe.

SealingStemBolt

Not at Mesa but been through something very, VERY similar before. The sad reality is none of the C-suite is going to come in and whisper in everyone's ear what's really going to happen. Not because JO is some mustache twirling ne'er-do-well but because execs are bound to very strict confidentiality rules. Especially since Mesa is publicly traded you simply aren't going to hear that much out of him besides "everything is fine, please keep working."

Personally, I think Mesa is going to go a bankruptcy restructuring if only because of the excess jets that they're on the hook for. The pilots will probably go to the E175 but the aircraft leases and financing need to be terminated ASAP. Not sure what that'll do to the pilot contract but I'm guessing they won't mess with that too much. Losing AA will basically "fix" the staffing problem though so maybe the desperation pay rates they agreed to won't be quite as important going forward. But then, of course all of this isn't going to encourage anyone to stick around either.

Just calling it as I see it way out here in the cheap seats, good luck folks.

MasterOfPuppets

I have no doubt that is the case but Kirby will be talking about his baby Aviate…..not about flying 900s

amcnd

Cracks me ip SK had to jump on a aircraft Monday morning to clean this mess up… quick hide any airplane with 10+ MEL stickers on them..

Mando0530

I don’t get what the mass hysteria is all about. Mesa is reallocating their pilots to the United side of the operation. United subsidized the pilot wages for Mesa’s American Eagle and DHL operations. United bought 18 CRJ 700’s from Mesa. They are obviously involved in this discussion. With adequate UAX staffing they can actually start flowing pilot’s through the Aviate program which has been pretty stalled out since there’s a shortage of UAX captains. United gets their UAX better staffed and improves their Aviate pipeline. Sounds like a good deal for them. Only people that are getting shafted are the Mesa lifers that will get displaced to a new base which is nothing new for any regional airline. If American thinks Air Wisconsin’s 200’s will be a better fit, good for them. Every Mesa employee has speculated this since we knew American didn’t give us money for a pay raise back in September. Y’all need to go outside and touch some grass.