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12-18-2022, 01:19 PM
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United’s scope is based on a total amount of frames. Block hours flown is based on mainline flying. The more we fly the more block hours the regionals can fly.
AA scope is based on the fleet size. As AA grows their fleet the regionals can grow their fleet.
AA scope is based on the fleet size. As AA grows their fleet the regionals can grow their fleet.
12-18-2022, 01:33 PM
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Get with it. Where did I say that United Management wouldn’t be interested in scope relief?
What I said was that they are not interested in talking about scope relief just to put 20 year-old beat-up airplanes in their system.
come on, man.
12-18-2022, 01:42 PM
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UA can bring MESA CRJ 900s online because 175s are parked. I expect this to be a rapid ramp up. As crews are retrained on the 175 the CRJ's can be retired/sold.
12-18-2022, 01:44 PM
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Is United is going to change all their booking engines? The app? All reservation software? And airport software? Train the ramp agents and gate agents? Paint new lead in lines at the airport and paint CRJ-900s into United paint?
10s of millions of dollars worth of work? No they aren’t. It’s not Chess this is Mesa lying to their pilots.
10s of millions of dollars worth of work? No they aren’t. It’s not Chess this is Mesa lying to their pilots.
Absolute worst case - 900s parked entirely. No new bases. We all get trained on the 175 and bring our UA flying back up to what it was pre-covid. Either way its not bad news.
12-18-2022, 01:46 PM
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Start roasting that crow. You don't want to have to eat it raw.
12-18-2022, 01:49 PM
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12-18-2022, 01:52 PM
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12-18-2022, 01:56 PM
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12-18-2022, 01:57 PM
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Despite what they're saying, you seriously believe that Mesa will keep crew bases for any serious amount of time in locations that are dominated by AA flying and barely have any UA flying? That makes absolutely zero sense. You're really trying to make yourself and others believe that everything is just hunky dory.
12-18-2022, 01:59 PM
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All but a few of the 900s are already at 76 seats. Very few have 79.
There are only a handful of reasons that a company buys another airline.
1. To acquire its Operating Certificate……United already has one.
2. To acquire its fleet of airplanes….. United Airlines needs CRJ900’s like they need another hole in their head and they already own 30 of the -175’s Mesa is operating.
3. To acquire coveted gate space or landing slots at a specific airport….Mesa has none of those.
4. To merge with another outfit with the goal of consolidating business and dominating the rest of the industry….Mesa can’t help United here either.
No scenario exists where it would make any sense for United to buy Mesa Airlines.
A couple of more practical hurdles to consider:
1. Everybody is so wound up about United’s Scope issues. The simplest way around that is to reconfigure these airplanes down to 76 seats.
But…that being said, would it be profitable to fly them around with 76 seats?
2.. With a few exceptions here and there, most of Mesa’s most senior pilots are all on the -900.
IF the -900’s do end up going away, JO will be incurring a ton of training costs to transition all those pilots to the -175.
1. To acquire its Operating Certificate……United already has one.
2. To acquire its fleet of airplanes….. United Airlines needs CRJ900’s like they need another hole in their head and they already own 30 of the -175’s Mesa is operating.
3. To acquire coveted gate space or landing slots at a specific airport….Mesa has none of those.
4. To merge with another outfit with the goal of consolidating business and dominating the rest of the industry….Mesa can’t help United here either.
No scenario exists where it would make any sense for United to buy Mesa Airlines.
A couple of more practical hurdles to consider:
1. Everybody is so wound up about United’s Scope issues. The simplest way around that is to reconfigure these airplanes down to 76 seats.
But…that being said, would it be profitable to fly them around with 76 seats?
2.. With a few exceptions here and there, most of Mesa’s most senior pilots are all on the -900.
IF the -900’s do end up going away, JO will be incurring a ton of training costs to transition all those pilots to the -175.
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