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Old 11-08-2021, 07:16 AM
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I was planning to apply to mesa in a month but that 6 months wait is a bit too much.
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:27 AM
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I was planning to apply to mesa in a month but that 6 months wait is a bit too much.
I couldn’t in good faith recommend Mesa to anyone at this point. Previously the quick time to a line and lots of flying was definitely a reason to be here. That’s gone, and the only reason to come here is gone with it. Find somewhere you can get to flying quickly. It’s all about getting the resume filled with 121 time and 121 pic time depending on where you want to go.
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:38 AM
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I couldn’t in good faith recommend Mesa to anyone at this point. Previously the quick time to a line and lots of flying was definitely a reason to be here. That’s gone, and the only reason to come here is gone with it. Find somewhere you can get to flying quickly. It’s all about getting the resume filled with 121 time and 121 pic time depending on where you want to go.
That was my whole reason to come to the mesa. Is that not happening anymore? I thought Mesa still has lots of flying and quick upgrade. Also it one of the AVIATE partner.
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Old 11-08-2021, 07:41 AM
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That was my whole reason to come to the mesa. Is that not happening anymore? I thought Mesa still has lots of flying and quick upgrade. Also it one of the AVIATE partner.
A couple years ago, yes. Mesa was a great choice for those reasons. Now steer well clear of this mismanaged gongshow of a company. It only has a few years left to live anyways.
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Old 11-08-2021, 08:12 AM
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A couple years ago, yes. Mesa was a great choice for those reasons. Now steer well clear of this mismanaged gongshow of a company. It only has a few years left to live anyways.
We were saying that back in 2003-2005 time frame when I was there, comedy of errors: Putting CRJ's acquired from a different airline that had IRS's online at Mesa with no training; F/A no showed for a trip. She had quit a week prior; Calling us back out after shutdown and hotel arrival because the DH crew that was supposed to fly back to the hub had missed the flight we operated; Those IRS CRJ's also burned more fuel than Mesa's CRJ's because they had different engines. After several diversions due to fuel the System Chief Pilot said "reserve fuel is there to be used!!"

Mesa is the airline equal to "The Walking Dead".
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Old 11-08-2021, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DB12
That was my whole reason to come to the mesa. Is that not happening anymore? I thought Mesa still has lots of flying and quick upgrade. Also it one of the AVIATE partner.
Mind you, there’s still lots of flying. But there’s no CRJ upgrade right now, except maybe a few each month. I’ll be starting my fourth year as an FO in a few months. I might upgrade sometime late next year assuming what we all expect (losing the AA contract) doesn’t happen. Including all things said above, I always think all airlines have their own problems, but Mesa has them all. While we can’t dictate your airline decision, I can say with full confidence, if we could do it all over again, I’d say most of us would have picked a different airline.
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Old 11-08-2021, 08:31 AM
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The only other airline I am leaning towards is Endeavor. They have 4 years of captain upgrade time and like everybody else, I also want to fly for legacy carriers one day without spending 6-7 years at a regional. I know Mesa has a lot of problems but the only thing that attracted me towards Mesa was a lot of pilots say they fly 1000 hours in a year on the EJET side which means you can upgrade sooner and finally go to United or something. My end goal is to fly for United one day and I am looking for a regional that can get me there quicker. This is a very tough decision on what regional to choose from also one you can get hired for. Mesa pays the lowest but the only good thing is you fly a lot.
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Originally Posted by DB12
The only other airline I am leaning towards is Endeavor. They have 4 years of captain upgrade time and like everybody else, I also want to fly for legacy carriers one day without spending 6-7 years at a regional. I know Mesa has a lot of problems but the only thing that attracted me towards Mesa was a lot of pilots say they fly 1000 hours in a year on the EJET side which means you can upgrade sooner and finally go to United or something. My end goal is to fly for United one day and I am looking for a regional that can get me there quicker. This is a very tough decision on what regional to choose from also one you can get hired for. Mesa pays the lowest but the only good thing is you fly a lot.
Wont be a 4 year upgrade for people hired at Endeavor now.
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Originally Posted by DB12
The only other airline I am leaning towards is Endeavor. They have 4 years of captain upgrade time and like everybody else, I also want to fly for legacy carriers one day without spending 6-7 years at a regional. I know Mesa has a lot of problems but the only thing that attracted me towards Mesa was a lot of pilots say they fly 1000 hours in a year on the EJET side which means you can upgrade sooner and finally go to United or something. My end goal is to fly for United one day and I am looking for a regional that can get me there quicker. This is a very tough decision on what regional to choose from also one you can get hired for. Mesa pays the lowest but the only good thing is you fly a lot.
You won’t fly a lot if it takes 8 months to go through initial
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Old 11-08-2021, 09:34 AM
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Are you in CRJ class or ERJ?
i’m ERJ, the CRJ class has no break and they are going straight in FPT and then sims, their class has their checkrides scheduled already
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