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Old 11-20-2022, 06:34 PM
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2 attempts. Fail? Coded UCC not punitive. 4 times a year max. Get to base ASAP and resume trip.
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Originally Posted by Amg4me
The thought isn't owning a regional like AA, i.e., a subsidiary, the thought is acquiring the regional and making it part of United, the Mesa brand goes away and folded into United. It's a financial decision.
Wouldn't UA lose the cost benefits of the regional model? For starters, Mesa Pilots and FA's will be brought up to mainline pay scales in addition to the complexities of adding a new fleet type to the mix.

I think Delta and American are going about it the right way with defined flow programs. The Aviate Academy sounds great, but it doesn't offer that "warm & fuzzy" of a flow. Especially when there are how many carriers participating in it? Pilots prefer a defined career path. Just my $.02
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Old 11-21-2022, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by cornerpocket
Wouldn't UA lose the cost benefits of the regional model? For starters, Mesa Pilots and FA's will be brought up to mainline pay scales in addition to the complexities of adding a new fleet type to the mix.

I think Delta and American are going about it the right way with defined flow programs. The Aviate Academy sounds great, but it doesn't offer that "warm & fuzzy" of a flow. Especially when there are how many carriers participating in it? Pilots prefer a defined career path. Just my $.02
Good points! One would have to do the detailed cost/benefit analysis on the pay rates, employee benefits, etc. At least from a pilot perspective, they are way closer now than they have ever been and my understanding was UA is already subsidizing the pay increases. Honestly, this would require extensive financial modeling to determine if it makes sense and I don't have the detailed and current information one would need to fully assess the viability of the acquisition. I'm not saying it will happen, I am just thinking about alternatives for dealing with the current state of the regionals in this anomalous market and how potential consolidation could play out. So many comments on why the regional model isn't working, but passengers still have to get to their destinations and airlines still have to answer to their shareholders. The UA board would be asking these kinds of questions and the officers, I am sure, will be working on the answers. Saying because it has never been done before would never be an acceptable answer.
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Old 11-21-2022, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cornerpocket
Wouldn't UA lose the cost benefits of the regional model? For starters, Mesa Pilots and FA's will be brought up to mainline pay scales in addition to the complexities of adding a new fleet type to the mix.

I think Delta and American are going about it the right way with defined flow programs. The Aviate Academy sounds great, but it doesn't offer that "warm & fuzzy" of a flow. Especially when there are how many carriers participating in it? Pilots prefer a defined career path. Just my $.02
There are no cost benefits to the regional model. Except when opening a new market. They would still lose money, just not as much money as a larger jet. The smaller the jet, the higher the seat mile cost.
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Originally Posted by maxjet;[url=tel:3536981
3536981[/url]]There are no cost benefits to the regional model. Except when opening a new market. They would still lose money, just not as much money as a larger jet. The smaller the jet, the higher the seat mile cost.
weird, mesa’s CASM prior to all of these raises was about 6.5 cents per mile. Roughly half that of United’s…
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Originally Posted by kevin18
weird, mesa’s CASM prior to all of these raises was about 6.5 cents per mile. Roughly half that of United’s…
really? This report reflects the quarter before Mesa raised pay rates.

But there was another side to the earnings report from October: Regional operations shrunk by almost 1% and essentially broke even while mainline operations expanded slightly and were highly profitable. This is an easy statistic in the report to catch, but what isn’t clear is why there is such a large discrepancy when comparing the mainline CASM (cost per available seat mile) to the regional CASM, which isn’t listed in United’s quarterly reports. The mainline CASM for the current quarter was 13.51 cents while the regional CASM was 19.92 cents.
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Originally Posted by maxjet;[url=tel:3537480
3537480[/url]]really? This report reflects the quarter before Mesa raised pay rates.

But there was another side to the earnings report from October: Regional operations shrunk by almost 1% and essentially broke even while mainline operations expanded slightly and were highly profitable. This is an easy statistic in the report to catch, but what isn’t clear is why there is such a large discrepancy when comparing the mainline CASM (cost per available seat mile) to the regional CASM, which isn’t listed in United’s quarterly reports. The mainline CASM for the current quarter was 13.51 cents while the regional CASM was 19.92 cents.
What report are you seeing a 19.92 CASM? Genuineness curious.
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What is the process of calling in fatigue at Mesa, who do I contact, and how many hours prior to the trip must it be made?
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Old 11-26-2022, 03:56 PM
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What is the process of calling in fatigue at Mesa, who do I contact, and how many hours prior to the trip must it be made?
call crew tracking and say you are fatigued then fill out the fatigued report online that’s it. you can call fatigued at any time
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