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08-27-2022, 05:34 AM

#2051

pangolin

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Originally Posted by friend

So with the new pay rate
75 hours guarantee a month that would equate to 7500/month, 90k year for FO
if one flies 100 hours a month that would be 10k a month, 120k a year for FO
not bad even if for first two years
thats comparable to LCC wages

Its 76 hours. Not 75. That’s 7600 x 12 = 91200. We haven’t seen 76 hours since covid. Most months for line holders is 83-90. A smart reserve that wants to make money can credit 100 a month.

08-27-2022, 05:36 AM

#2052

pangolin

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Originally Posted by AnnieAreYouOk

Great day for Mesa Pilots! Seems like JO’s last attempt to save the company. I’m curious to see how the company can afford these new rates since they haven’t been profitable since 2021.

This is kind of misleading. When was 2021? The money is coming from the partners and the sale of assets.

08-27-2022, 05:40 AM

#2053

pangolin

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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer

Except you can't fly 100 hours a month for 12 months. That would exceed 1000/yr limitation

You can make 100 hours a month for 10 months though. Which is 100k. And be sure to minus taxes from all that as well. And even that would be no-lifing it

not how this works my friend.

I regularly credit well more than I actually fly. You can credit 100 but fly way less.

08-27-2022, 05:56 AM

#2054

gomissedagain

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As a potential new hire I’d like to be able to see the entire LOA as well as the current contract. Is that possible?

08-27-2022, 07:24 AM

#2055

Cujo665

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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize

It’s crap. Two year deal. Pay only. No other improvements. I can guarantee you on 9/16/24 (or sooner) we’ll be back to the current rates. It’s a temporary bandage. As soon as the company is staffed this goes away. I’ve seen it too many times. It’s in jos DNA to screw pilots. Its sport to him. Remember when he bragged “you should have let me negotiate for you” two contracts ago. This will never change. If you think it will you’re a fool.

That is not how it works at all.

If there is no language rolling it back to previous levels, then the rate at the end of the contract (amendable date is the correct term since under the RLA they don't really expire, they become amendable in section six). The point is there is no snap-back provision in the TA, so these are permanent raises after the amendable date. Then you negotiate from there forward.

Well done guys, Been saying these days were coming for years, that FFD/CPA agreements are not the gold standard anymore, Pilot Staffing is the new currency. All regionals will either pony up the money and QOL changes or go the way of Trans States and Compass.....

Congrats !!

08-27-2022, 08:04 AM

#2056

tsimmns927

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Will all the new pay rates at regionals and hiring done by majors is now if ever the time do take out a loan for training and possibly do some accelerated training to get you where you want to be?

08-27-2022, 08:52 AM

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pangolin

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Originally Posted by gomissedagain

As a potential new hire I’d like to be able to see the entire LOA as well as the current contract. Is that possible?

No. no airline does this. It’s the ultimate bait and switch.

08-27-2022, 08:54 AM

#2058

pangolin

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Originally Posted by gomissedagain

As a potential new hire I’d like to be able to see the entire LOA as well as the current contract. Is that possible?

Ask your recruiter. I’d like to see what they say.

08-27-2022, 09:00 AM

#2059

Qwerty123

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Originally Posted by Twr199

This had nothing to do with the MEC. Don’t forget the first TA they pushed that was voted down. Pay only for two years and no other QOL improvements. This is JO’s desperate bandaid to stop the bleeding. MEC did nothing.

More likely this was AA and UA sick of listening to management saying they don't need to give raises while watching their flying decrease so they pushed them to action.

08-27-2022, 09:05 AM

#2060

CrewRoomLize

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Originally Posted by pangolin

EFFECTIVE is when the rates begin. Not when they end. On 9-15-24 the rates go up. They don’t go back down one day later. You are just making stuff up. They will STAY at the 2024 rates until we renegotiate something different. There is no snap back - there is just no annual 1 pct increase after 2024.

You children just don’t know how the world really works do you. You all claim knowledge you have absolutely no idea of reality. I’ve been at mesa longer than most if you have been alive and have seem all our ALPA contracts and dozens of others at other carriers be torn to shreds by unscrupulous management groups. You all think in absolutes. The only two absolutes in life are death and taxes.