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Old 08-26-2022, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cameronhoward
If it's a 2 year deal that ends on 9/16/2024, then why do they have a column with rates starting on 9/15/24?? Are those rates only good for one day?? I think not. The rates starting on 9/15/24 are good in perpetuity until a new deal is reached.
Not unless there is specific language that stipulates that. This is a legally binding contract. You can’t just iply something. Until I see language that says the rates are permanent until new rates are negotiated then I’ll believe it…nothing more. Otherwise that payscale is just a chart full of numbers.
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Old 08-26-2022, 08:22 PM
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So with the new pay rate
75 hours guarantee a month that would equate to 7500/month, 90k year for FO
if one flies 100 hours a month that would be 10k a month, 120k a year for FO
not bad even if for first two years
thats comparable to LCC wages
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Old 08-26-2022, 09:31 PM
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Great day for Mesa Pilots! Seems like JO’s last attempt to save the company. I’m curious to see how the company can afford these new rates since they haven’t been profitable since 2021.
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Old 08-27-2022, 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer
Sadly the rates are not permanent. Only temporary.
Wrong. Permanent.
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Old 08-27-2022, 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by friend
So with the new pay rate
75 hours guarantee a month that would equate to 7500/month, 90k year for FO
if one flies 100 hours a month that would be 10k a month, 120k a year for FO
not bad even if for first two years
thats comparable to LCC wages
Except you can't fly 100 hours a month for 12 months. That would exceed 1000/yr limitation

You can make 100 hours a month for 10 months though. Which is 100k. And be sure to minus taxes from all that as well. And even that would be no-lifing it
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Old 08-27-2022, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AnnieAreYouOk
Great day for Mesa Pilots! Seems like JO’s last attempt to save the company. I’m curious to see how the company can afford these new rates since they haven’t been profitable since 2021.
Daddy United kicking in some cash is my guess
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Old 08-27-2022, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer
Except you can't fly 100 hours a month for 12 months. That would exceed 1000/yr limitation

You can make 100 hours a month for 10 months though. Which is 100k. And be sure to minus taxes from all that as well. And even that would be no-lifing it
You can credit 100 hours a month, or 120…etc
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Originally Posted by ABXAirOfficer
Sadly the rates are not permanent. Only temporary.
Thats just false. They’re no reversion to prior rates.
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Old 08-27-2022, 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize
You must not have passed world problems in 7th grade math.

9/15/22 to 9/15/23 = 1 year
9/15/23 to 9/15/24 = 1 year
9/16/24 = back to current rates

It’s a two year deal unless your a democrat and 1+1 is the obviously 3….
EFFECTIVE is when the rates begin. Not when they end. On 9-15-24 the rates go up. They don’t go back down one day later. You are just making stuff up. They will STAY at the 2024 rates until we renegotiate something different. There is no snap back - there is just no annual 1 pct increase after 2024.
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Originally Posted by CrewRoomLize
Not unless there is specific language that stipulates that. This is a legally binding contract. You can’t just iply something. Until I see language that says the rates are permanent until new rates are negotiated then I’ll believe it…nothing more. Otherwise that payscale is just a chart full of numbers.
You don’t know how this works. So when our PWA from 2017 expired rates would go back to prior rates? Uh. No. This is an amendment to that PWA. NO the rates do not snap back. No it’s not two years.

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