Mesa 4.0 what’s the latest
01-29-2022, 05:56 AM
#1302
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01-29-2022, 09:58 AM
#1305
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Then I get all kinds of comments about a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. I’ve only been talking about averages.
Yes, aware of this - now cue everyone saying this is changing rapidly, that isn’t really required, I know a guy who knows a guy… I responded to someone saying, essentially, get 500 hours and take your pick of airlines to call home. I said, that even now, that’s not quite accurate. I then specified I was talking about DL, UA, AA. Then I get the latest comment - about cargo snatching no experience guys up. Again, Atlas is a world apart from UPS/FedEx. Yes, Frontier has taken CFIs, they took a shlt-ton of FOs from my regional before Covid, before the latest hiring boom. Yes, some 25yo with no PIC get the call from legacies. All I was saying is that, even now, it’s not the norm - AT LEGACIES: AA, DL, UA, UPS, FedEx. That’s it, nothing more, end of story. Nothing about Atlas, Breeze, Sunny, Frontier, etc.
Get all your ducks in a row for that to happen, sure, but count on that and expect that? - certainly not. As with everything supply vs demand. Frontier recently took a rotor-pure guy. But that just isn’t the norm, not even now.
Get all your ducks in a row for that to happen, sure, but count on that and expect that? - certainly not. As with everything supply vs demand. Frontier recently took a rotor-pure guy. But that just isn’t the norm, not even now.
I'm talking now. Not a month from now, not last month, not next year. Right now - IN MY OPINION - it is doing young guys a disservice to say - take any regional you can to fly right away because 6 months on the line, you'll have your pick of interviews due to hearing examples of below. That's it, nothing more...
If you read my comments in this thread, I’m strictly referring to DL, AA, UA, UPS, FedEx… you may have seen where I said a sh$t-ton of FOs were getting plucked by a certain LCC from my regional in ‘19 - before this latest hiring boom. That’s not new. I’m not talking about LCCs, or Atlas, etc
=13.33pxLook man, I merely commented about someone implying to a new guy to just fly at all cost, because he’ll be gone in 500 hours. That’s it. I’m allowed to have that opinion. It’s the same as SJS, etc. At the end of the day, I just think it’s a little rash to jump to Mesa vs. SkyWest because he wants to fly right now. Especially as you stated right after this post to me that an August new hire is still waiting on sims with Mesa.
And no, my apps aren’t out.
=13.33pxLook man, I merely commented about someone implying to a new guy to just fly at all cost, because he’ll be gone in 500 hours. That’s it. I’m allowed to have that opinion. It’s the same as SJS, etc. At the end of the day, I just think it’s a little rash to jump to Mesa vs. SkyWest because he wants to fly right now. Especially as you stated right after this post to me that an August new hire is still waiting on sims with Mesa.
And no, my apps aren’t out.
Like I’ve said all through this post - yeah it happens. I’m talking averages here. Even in this environment, 250 FO time with a civilian background IS NOT your average hire at a legacy. Get your apps squared away - no reason not to. But to say “looks like the number is 250” doesn’t even mean anything. So a guy gets hired with 4000 121 PIC, do I say, looks like the number is 4000 PIC?
That’s all I’ve been trying to get across. That’s it. I’ll stay in my lane now and let you and your buddy tell everyone how it really is. Yeah, and don’t worry, we won’t be flying together any time soon. You’re completely safe.
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01-29-2022, 09:46 PM
#1306
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So I'm at about 1200 hours, and am in United's Aviate. I have an interview with Mesa and Gojet next week, I currently hold a CJO from Republic and am a skywest cadet. I have read everything there is to read on these forums. I am currently thinking about potentially taking the Republic offer because I have a lot of friends there that seem to be happy. Mesa seems to have a large bottleneck in training, yet the benefit here is I get to pick the UAX flying. Gojet's plus right now is the update in pay. I live in Nashville and plan to commute. So the question is, which would you choose? Step out of aviate for Republic and take the chance off the street years from now, or go for Mesa/Gojet and stay in the aviate system?
01-31-2022, 07:04 PM
#1307
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Questions
Hi, I'm wondering about a few things regarding Mesa.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
01-31-2022, 09:51 PM
#1308
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Posts: 58
Hi, I'm wondering about a few things regarding Mesa.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
2) lump sum once IOE complete
3) 0-3 days
4) there may be a premilinary one, but you aren’t good to go until maybe a month into training or so.
01-31-2022, 11:12 PM
#1309
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Hi, I'm wondering about a few things regarding Mesa.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
1. If once picks the E175 and has to wait a couple months for a class date, is there any compensation during that time?
2. How is the $20k bonus dispersed?
3. How soon after interviewing does one hear back?
4. When is the background check completed? I don't have anything derogatory on my record, just worry about small things like exact dates etc, would be nice to know when one is "good to go."
Thank you.
1. No, you are compensated if you are sent home after systems to wait for SIT/SIM
2. All upon completion of IOE
3. From 0 a 48 hrs depending on who does your interview
4. After you are on property, within a couple of weeks
New sim opens in PHX this Friday. Combine that with the reduced number of FOs starting class the last couple of months and the wait for sims should be coming back down at this point. Obviously that will have to play out but I would anticipate someone starting today could only be waiting for a couple of months.
01-31-2022, 11:35 PM
#1310
New Hire
Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 6
1. No, you are compensated if you are sent home after systems to wait for SIT/SIM
2. All upon completion of IOE
3. From 0 a 48 hrs depending on who does your interview
4. After you are on property, within a couple of weeks
New sim opens in PHX this Friday. Combine that with the reduced number of FOs starting class the last couple of months and the wait for sims should be coming back down at this point. Obviously that will have to play out but I would anticipate someone starting today could only be waiting for a couple of months.
2. All upon completion of IOE
3. From 0 a 48 hrs depending on who does your interview
4. After you are on property, within a couple of weeks
New sim opens in PHX this Friday. Combine that with the reduced number of FOs starting class the last couple of months and the wait for sims should be coming back down at this point. Obviously that will have to play out but I would anticipate someone starting today could only be waiting for a couple of months.
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