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Old 12-04-2021, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jetlag q
when the staff is underpaid. You typically get folks to jump at 300% especially around the holidays.
Wish they wouldn’t. The less people pick up 300% the quicker the entire pilot group gets a raise.
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Old 12-04-2021, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Wish they wouldn’t. The less people pick up 300% the quicker the entire pilot group gets a raise.
People either don’t understand that or just don’t care.
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Old 12-04-2021, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
. The less people pick up 300% the quicker the entire pilot group gets a raise.
More likely the entire pilot group gets 5% more people hired underneath them. The way to fix sometimes not having enough pilots is most times having too many pilots
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Old 12-04-2021, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Wish they wouldn’t. The less people pick up 300% the quicker the entire pilot group gets a raise.
I literally said this to an Fo a couple of days ago. The 300 % is good and more bad for the pilot group.

it’s good because we get an opportunity to get a ln increase in pay.

it’s bad because although one pilot gets increased pay for a series of flights the guy in the right seat is flying at straight pay. And so are so many others.

it’s bad because if we keep taking 300% the staffing level never gets corrected.

it’s bad because they pay rate never increases. To lore pilots to mesa.

but explain that to the new hire that’s getting 36/37 $ an hour who doesn’t even want to wait for the email to go from 200% to 300%.
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Old 12-04-2021, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
More likely the entire pilot group gets 5% more people hired underneath them. The way to fix sometimes not having enough pilots is most times having too many pilots
here’s a hint, if the company could hire 5% more people they would. The fact of the matter is with current pay they flat out can’t. And the only way they could hire more people then they are currently losing is by raising pay. I don’t know why that is so complicated. It’s not rocket science people.
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Old 12-05-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
here’s a hint, if the company could hire 5% more people they would. The fact of the matter is with current pay they flat out can’t. And the only way they could hire more people then they are currently losing is by raising pay. I don’t know why that is so complicated. It’s not rocket science people.
First time posting here, so I’m sorry if this is the wrong place but this seems to be the most active thread.

I was called for an interview, and it’s scheduled in the next couple days. I’m interviewing for the ERJ, which I have not seen as many complaints about in this thread. I have pending interviews with a couple of other regionals too but from the way I see it Mesa is offering a much larger initial bonus (I understand hourly pay is trash), shorter upgrade time (according to the interviewer, so correct me if I have bad info), and a base with lower cost of living than any other regional is going to want to stick me (I’m not trying to commute).

All that being said, I see a lot of posts on here basically saying buyer beware. I have read most of this thread and I think I have an idea of what everyone’s mad about. So, my question to anyone reading this is: Is the QOL alone bad enough to turn down a CJO here? Or is it an ok place for someone who can make it work for them?

Any insight is appreciated
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Old 12-05-2021, 10:02 PM
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Here’s the biggest thing going against mesa right now. Time to train is through the roof. You won’t see any flying until mid summer right now. We’re seriously backed up a minimum of six months. That may change come march as I understand we have another sim coming. However, I would go where you can get flying the quickest. Just my opinion. Mesa’s good thing used to be no reserve and on the line getting your hours quickly. Once you get through training you’ll be flying a lot. However that’s a ways away right now.
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Old 12-06-2021, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteNoiz
First time posting here, so I’m sorry if this is the wrong place but this seems to be the most active thread.

I was called for an interview, and it’s scheduled in the next couple days. I’m interviewing for the ERJ, which I have not seen as many complaints about in this thread. I have pending interviews with a couple of other regionals too but from the way I see it Mesa is offering a much larger initial bonus (I understand hourly pay is trash), shorter upgrade time (according to the interviewer, so correct me if I have bad info), and a base with lower cost of living than any other regional is going to want to stick me (I’m not trying to commute).

All that being said, I see a lot of posts on here basically saying buyer beware. I have read most of this thread and I think I have an idea of what everyone’s mad about. So, my question to anyone reading this is: Is the QOL alone bad enough to turn down a CJO here? Or is it an ok place for someone who can make it work for them?

Any insight is appreciated
Would you live in base or commute? And are you looking at IAD or IAH?
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Old 12-06-2021, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43
Would you live in base or commute? And are you looking at IAD or IAH?
IAH is preferred, decent cost of living and near family for me. And I would plan to live in base.
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Old 12-06-2021, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by WhiteNoiz
IAH is preferred, decent cost of living and near family for me. And I would plan to live in base.
Probably worth it. I wouldn’t commute to this company and IAD is super senior on the CA side. If IAH also consider SKW. Also depends on how long you plan on staying. This company doesn’t have many years left. So as long as you plan to be out in a few years that won’t be a factor. But if you are expecting a longer stay I would run away from this powder keg. We are becoming a senior pilot group. And when a regional becomes too heavy with top of the pay scale earners it gets undercut (just look at what happened to XJT) the same thing will happen here. The lifers of Mesa will bring about its downfall.
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