Mesa Pilots - Why the Bad Rap? Warranted?
#71
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As far as commuting, it costs the most important thing in life and that is time. Time on reserve away from home. Commutes in the day before or the day after.
There was a guy that was looking to commute out of SAT. Based on what I hear, I would recommend that he either needs to drive or go to a regional that does positive space their commute. I hear that the SAT commute is horrible. However, rather than comment, I would prefer he hear it from a SAT pilot.
On the other hand, you are a PSA troll.
#72
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Sounds military... if so, use your connections to get honest reviews. I know there's a pipeline with rotor guys for interview help and honest industry insight.
Even if you're not military, so long as you don't have any F ups, you could get hired anywhere you want. Interview everywhere, hear their song and dance, collect CJO's and then decide. DO NOT automatically go to the first airline to give you a job offer. Shop around. Your resume allows for it.
Even if you're not military, so long as you don't have any F ups, you could get hired anywhere you want. Interview everywhere, hear their song and dance, collect CJO's and then decide. DO NOT automatically go to the first airline to give you a job offer. Shop around. Your resume allows for it.
#73
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Agreed. Republic and SKW actually own their own 170/5's. Mesa does not. Translation, no tangible assets and can be taken away by UAL the moment the performance slips. And as said before, PIC time only matters to one's own ego. Every Pilot get's an ATP and therefor every pilot at an airline is equal regardless of stripes.
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#75
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Did you miss his point about how often he is home? It’s a lot.
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#79
Good grief children. Why do any of you at the regionals care who has the best contract, unless you are planning on making a career at it. If not, then get your time and get out!!.. None of the regionals will ever have a pay scale and QOL that the majors have. I was at Mesa from Nov 1999-2011. The bashing was going on then and apparently hasn’t changed one bit. Get over yourselves.
#80
Good grief children. Why do any of you at the regionals care who has the best contract, unless you are planning on making a career at it. If not, then get your time and get out!!.. None of the regionals will ever have a pay scale and QOL that the majors have. I was at Mesa from Nov 1999-2011. The bashing was going on then and apparently hasn’t changed one bit. Get over yourselves.
The fact of the matter is that the job market has changed from what it was, and it really says a lot that anyone would go to Mesa today “because erj” or “because Houston” despite the staggering difference in QOL/benefits that you’ll get at pretty much any other regional. Domiciles are a weak reason to choose a company. When I was at mesa, they closed 6 bases within 2 years.
This isn’t about personal pride regarding which company is better, it’s about being straight with prospective new hires about what they’re getting in to, and not being an apologist for all the shenanigans that go on at Mesa. You will make less money, you will work more, and you will not be treated like a human being. And before you bring up the ability to pick up open time (looking at you calmwinds), that’s not a benefit. That’s doing extra work. You can’t say that the ability to work extra closes the gap with companies that have much better pay and work rules.
I don’t think anyone is going to say you’re less of a pilot for going to Mesa. I know a lot of awesome people there that I would recommend without question. What you do need to do is some real research as to what measurable benefits you can get from where you spend your time. Not to mention the very real fact that the airline you dream of moving up to DOES care who you worked for in the past, and the value of your experience. ALPA has published the figures of where the majors hire from. Give that a second look.
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