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12-10-2008, 03:02 PM
#21
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
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12-10-2008, 04:51 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: DAL A350 CA
Posts: 36
EZOpenboard has the info, albeit it only shows retirements for each side, in each year, that are senior to you.
I'm a NWA 96 hire. Based on that:
Next 10 years from today:
NWA Retirements(age 65): 1095
DAL Retirements (age 65): 664
Next 15 years from today:
NWA Retirements(age 65): 2466
DAL Retirements (age 65): 2639
So over the next 10 years NWA retirement runs about 1.6 NWA for every 1 DAL. Starting 10 years from now, for 5 years, DAL retires 1.4 for every 1 NWA. Obviously this assumes everyone flies to 65 and no NWA retires at 60.
I'm a NWA 96 hire. Based on that:
Next 10 years from today:
NWA Retirements(age 65): 1095
DAL Retirements (age 65): 664
Next 15 years from today:
NWA Retirements(age 65): 2466
DAL Retirements (age 65): 2639
So over the next 10 years NWA retirement runs about 1.6 NWA for every 1 DAL. Starting 10 years from now, for 5 years, DAL retires 1.4 for every 1 NWA. Obviously this assumes everyone flies to 65 and no NWA retires at 60.
I don't know where you received your numbers but from our company scheduled retirement list titled "PILOT'S PROJECTED RETIREMENT LIST AS OF 01JAN08" on DeltaNet the numbers are slightly different. It shows pre-merger Delta retirements from 2012 to 2018 (10 years from now) are 737 and through 2023 (15 years from now) are 2951. It could not have changed that much since Jan...I think I have moved maybe 3 or 4 numbers this year and I am in the middle of the pre-merger Delta seniority list.
12-10-2008, 05:53 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 26
I don't know where you received your numbers but from our company scheduled retirement list titled "PILOT'S PROJECTED RETIREMENT LIST AS OF 01JAN08" on DeltaNet the numbers are slightly different. It shows pre-merger Delta retirements from 2012 to 2018 (10 years from now) are 737 and through 2023 (15 years from now) are 2951. It could not have changed that much since Jan...I think I have moved maybe 3 or 4 numbers this year and I am in the middle of the pre-merger Delta seniority list.
12-11-2008, 03:22 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Posts: 329
well I lost 500 plus numbers to my 3yr later hired delta bros. that was tough to grasp but it is what it is. But, when I lokked at where I would be at retirement I ended up at aprox the same number as if I was still at NWA below 50!! and I'm a 84 hire NWA. So in the end it is not if DAL won or NWA lost, I still won because I was fortunate to be hired Young, and still have most of my retirement, I dont have to work my entire life at the new DELTA like my delta bros do. Cheers
12-11-2008, 04:15 PM
#27
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: LAX 350 A
Posts: 564
737-800 CA LAX
I was 3881 at Delta. That put me at 52%. My new number is 6777 or 54%. Using the arbitrator's methodology I thing I got "slightly hosed."
Considering the task at hand I am very happy with the results. DOH is by far the best method of combining lists IF all other things be equal. We all know they were not. I am extreamly lucky to live where I want and fly as CA on the -800. I am not, however so high that I don't realize I most likely will be displaced again (I got displaced to 737 CA from 767-400 FO). So here's the $1M question: do I go get the 777 type or just fly the ER out of LA and be very senior? Flying Hawaii was S W E E T ...
BTW: On the night of the 8th we finished the bottle of rum and a 12 pack, then then party began!
I was 3881 at Delta. That put me at 52%. My new number is 6777 or 54%. Using the arbitrator's methodology I thing I got "slightly hosed."
Considering the task at hand I am very happy with the results. DOH is by far the best method of combining lists IF all other things be equal. We all know they were not. I am extreamly lucky to live where I want and fly as CA on the -800. I am not, however so high that I don't realize I most likely will be displaced again (I got displaced to 737 CA from 767-400 FO). So here's the $1M question: do I go get the 777 type or just fly the ER out of LA and be very senior? Flying Hawaii was S W E E T ...
BTW: On the night of the 8th we finished the bottle of rum and a 12 pack, then then party began!
12-11-2008, 04:39 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: non acceptus excretus
Posts: 561
well I lost 500 plus numbers to my 3yr later hired delta bros. that was tough to grasp but it is what it is. But, when I lokked at where I would be at retirement I ended up at aprox the same number as if I was still at NWA below 50!! and I'm a 84 hire NWA. So in the end it is not if DAL won or NWA lost, I still won because I was fortunate to be hired Young, and still have most of my retirement, I dont have to work my entire life at the new DELTA like my delta bros do. Cheers
