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10-28-2008, 05:59 PM
#71
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Interesting... just what do you mean by that? Should an international widebody first officer at DAL shrug his shoulders and give his seat up to a NWA DC9 FO that got hired at NWA a year before? Why do you think this is fair? Are they pawns for YOU to make the dicision about? Well guess what cap'n... it's precisely this attitude that's going to drive a wedge between our groups.. I'm oh so looking forward to working with you.
10-28-2008, 06:14 PM
#72
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Couldn't be a difference in fleet plans, demographics, business, etc. Just pure luck.
Last edited by slowplay; 10-28-2008 at 06:24 PM. Reason: number error for NWA new hires
10-28-2008, 06:15 PM
#73
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Interesting... just what do you mean by that? Should an international widebody first officer at DAL shrug his shoulders and give his seat up to a NWA DC9 FO that got hired at NWA a year before? Why do you think this is fair? Are they pawns for YOU to make the dicision about? Well guess what cap'n... it's precisely this attitude that's going to drive a wedge between our groups.. I'm oh so looking forward to working with you.
10-28-2008, 06:16 PM
#74
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Interesting... just what do you mean by that? Should an international widebody first officer at DAL shrug his shoulders and give his seat up to a NWA DC9 FO that got hired at NWA a year before? Why do you think this is fair? Are they pawns for YOU to make the dicision about? Well guess what cap'n... it's precisely this attitude that's going to drive a wedge between our groups.. I'm oh so looking forward to working with you.
why does a first year employee even get widebody FO right off the bat? isn't it because senior people don't actually want the position? I'm not bashing it, just stating it isn't always what everyone wants. It shouldn't give someone the right to leap frog over someone else at another company where it might be a more desirable position within that airline.
10-28-2008, 06:20 PM
#75
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A little over 100? How about a little under 200
(190 to be exact) Funny you spun that. 
Every argument has a reverse for the other side. The guys on the DAL side hold higher positions now but will stagnate there for the next 15+ years where the nwa side will see constant attrition over the next 15 years.
10-28-2008, 06:23 PM
#76
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A little over 100? How about a little under 200 (190 to be exact) Funny you spun that.
Ever argument has a reverse for the other side. The guys on the DAL side hold higher positions now but will stagnate there for the next 15+ years where the nwa side will see constant attrition over the next 15 years.
(190 to be exact) Funny you spun that. Ever argument has a reverse for the other side. The guys on the DAL side hold higher positions now but will stagnate there for the next 15+ years where the nwa side will see constant attrition over the next 15 years.
As far as attrition, according to our merger guys NWA has a total of 370 more guys hitting age 65 in the next 5 years. At the 10 year point it heads toward Delta. Makes the call for 10 year fences seem a little selfish, doesn't it. Spin is what you make it...
10-28-2008, 06:32 PM
#77
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I cannot see a 10 yr fence. 3-5 and maybe a straight ratio. If you are 80% you will be that way after the merger.
For me it is a loss of 500 numbers over the dal proposal, and a gain of 200 numbers over DOH.
For me it is a loss of 500 numbers over the dal proposal, and a gain of 200 numbers over DOH.
10-28-2008, 06:34 PM
#78
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I'll fix that in the previous post. My apologies. I can't read my own notes. I showed NWA with 140 new hires.
As far as attrition, according to our merger guys NWA has a total of 370 more guys hitting age 65 in the next 5 years. At the 10 year point it heads toward Delta. Makes the call for 10 year fences seem a little selfish, doesn't it. Spin is what you make it...
As far as attrition, according to our merger guys NWA has a total of 370 more guys hitting age 65 in the next 5 years. At the 10 year point it heads toward Delta. Makes the call for 10 year fences seem a little selfish, doesn't it. Spin is what you make it...
bottom line we will find out in less than a month what is going to happen. Both sides have weaknesses and both sides have strengths. lets hope the puzzle fits.
10-28-2008, 06:47 PM
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I dont get wrapped up in that garbage. As far as i am concerned we are all orange books. Diversity is what we dont need from this merger. I have way to much time with the new DAL to get bent out of shape in all this mess.
I give, whats a greenliner?
Diversity is what we dont need from this merger. I have way to much time with the new DAL to get bent out of shape in all this mess. I give, whats a greenliner?
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