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Old 02-22-2008, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by StripAlert
I can't believe all this talk about retiring at whatever number. I haven't a clue what my seniority would be at retirement, because I have no desire to fly until 60, let alone 65 now. I think I'd be a lot happier at 65 sitting on an island someplace drinking a margarita than in the cockpit of a 777 somewhere over the Atlantic in the middle of the night smug in the knowledge that there are only four guys senior to me at the company while simultaneously lamenting the fact that I had to fly to Frankfurt on Monday instead of Tuesday because that damn younger guy Jim was hired two weeks before me, 30 years ago.

For what it's worth, I'm a whole lot more concerned about pay and quality of life *now* so I can get the hell out of here long before I turn 60. Hopefully I can also make someone else happy by getting out of the way so he can retire at 23 instead of 24, and then keel over dead the next day...

Good grief...
like someone said quit possibly one of the funniest posts ever.

very contradictory.
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Someone is gonna get the shaft, and as always it will probably be the Junior New Hires. If I were a new hire at either airline, especially Delta, I would have my Furlough gameplan ready to execute.
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Originally Posted by Clear Right
Someone is gonna get the shaft, and as always it will probably be the Junior New Hires. If I were a new hire at either airline, especially Delta, I would have my Furlough gameplan ready to execute.

Wow, What an original thought......

Flame on.....
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Old 02-22-2008, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Clear Right
Someone is gonna get the shaft, and as always it will probably be the Junior New Hires. If I were a new hire at either airline, especially Delta, I would have my Furlough gameplan ready to execute.
Thanks for that great advice, dad.
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Originally Posted by Knightrider
There is some truth to the Feburary date because the next presidential administration will have to review the merger if it is not set up for review by the end of this month. If that happens you are looking at atleast another year before that is taken care of.
Who says? Where are you getting this "truth"? I've been hearing things like; "it has to be done by mid Jan". But oops, that came and went. Then it was; "it has to happen by the end of Jan". Then; "by mid Feb". Now those too have come and gone with no announcements.

Why can't it happen in June or July? If everything is ready to go (agreements on Seniority list integration, Pay, Fences, Leather jackets /no leather jackets, etc...) then why wouldn't 6 months be enough to get it through the current administration?

Not ripping on you. Just wondering why so many people in this forum, and in the cockpit, say "it has to happen by..."
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Your Welcome, good luck.
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Old 02-22-2008, 02:28 PM
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Even though I do not see massive furloughs. I am in the bottom 10% of the merged company and am ready for whatever comes. I think that this will go through, but I do not see job cuts as we have seen in the past.
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Even though I do not see massive furloughs. I am in the bottom 10% of the merged company and am ready for whatever comes. I think that this will go through, but I do not see job cuts as we have seen in the past.
I think you are correct......I see growth not cuts with a DAL/NWA merger. History suggests that every time Delta has merged it was followed by massive growth.
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what is the latest to happen to Minneapolis after the merge? I have heard rumors on Minneapolis television stations that Delta plans to cut jobs and shrink the MSP base after the merge?? Any thoughts??
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NW has hired what like maybe a couple hundred new guys? We put almost 500 on property last year. Can you seriously suggest that a NW guy hired last month should be senior to a Delta guy hired in OCT 07, Aug 07? June 07?
Yes, because there is still 55% of the NW pilot group that can retire in the next 10 years(might have to in 15, or sooner due to medical outs). That puts NW newhire career expectations far above any DL newhire from 01/07 on.

That being said, someone will lose. If we can stay united as pilots and fight for pre 9/11 contracts, as well as avoid furloughs, that may take a little of the sting out of it.

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