Fishfreighter

Wouldn't surprise me a bit, Buck. I was a news item that NWA ALPA guys were still debating Republic merger issues from 1986, though those issues were unspecified.

A guess? When it came to merging the lists, the NWA fences would be OBE and the Republic guys would have a shot at NWA wides.

Bucking Bar

Fish - Now that's an angle I had not considered.

Thanks!

Look like there is an agreement to disagree. Fine with me

newKnow

Republic guys already have a shot at NWA wides. All that stuff was finished in 2006.

newKnow

Bar,

Where do you get this stuff? Our seniority list is DOH. The previous merger you are talking about happened in 1986. Hard feelings from then? Maybe still a few. But believe me, not like you are painting it. Our message boards talk of the old COBRA Airlines rising again. We are united and prepared.

"Hissss...."

New K Now

greenmoon

NWA has pilots at the bottom of their list (excluding recent new hires) who have been through some tough times since 9/11 (furloughed-recalled-furloughed-recalled). I know DAL has pilots who have seen similar hard times. If this merger goes through and if there are more furloughs, the NWA negotiators cannot be responsible for letting those same NWA pilots get furloughed again so that DAL 2007 new hires can be spared. They have to respectfully walk away from a deal like that. If that's what kills this deal and you want to blame the NWA negotiators, I guess one needs to consider your point of reference.

Bucking Bar

I understand your concerns and can accept respectfully walking away.

One question, how do you protect your DC-9 pilots without a merger? What protection do they have now? Compass and Mesaba?

The plan to put several thousand ER, 767, 757 and MD88/90 pilots below them sure isn't acceptable either.

Doug Steenland gets to keep his job and I get to keep mine - what a deal.

Bucking Bar

Not according to the papers....
http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...18,print.story

newKnow

There is a narrowbody floor that must be contractually respected. As in there are a minimum number of narrowbodys that must be on the property in comparison to Compass and Mesaba 76 seaters.

Thanks for your concern for NWA DC-9 pilots Bar, but we will be ok. Our DC-9 pilots are DC-9 pilots because they want to be. I have flown with new hires who are on their way to the 747 (s/o) and 320 (FO).

If you are looking at the same information we are, you know that NWA has plently of cash to buy whatever airplanes they want to. There is no need for shrinkage. I think we just are rich in the understanding that any airplane NWA has is not ours as pilots. All we do is fly them. I guess we are not as lucky as you at DAL, where they buy airplanes just so you can fly them. (Or, "invest in their pilots", as you said on another thread)

Understand that the only reason I jump on your posts is that they all seem to indicate that you feel that everyone should be honored to fly for Delta Airlines and jump for joy at the prospects of flying a 767 with a double breasted suit jacket hanging in the closet behind you.

Overplayed our hand? Do you know what our -400's do? Have you been to Narita? Amsterdam? Delta is not the only airline that fly's international. I think our hands are just fine without the coat.

New K Now

greenmoon

[quote=Bucking Bar;325838 The NWA pilots over-played their hand, I think the deal is off.[/quote]

Relax, it's not over yet. Management hasn't even issued any deadlines or threats. In order for both sides to get their best deal, it'll have to go down to the wire - no different than contract time.

Fishfreighter

I guess they forgot to tell the ex-Republic Captain whose A320 jumpseat I rode recently. He said he was still restricted to narrowbodies.