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Old 03-04-2007, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Worldguy
the point is having one is better than not having one

perfect statement right there love em or hate em that pretty much sums it up
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by CE750
now you're making some sense. People need to be educated on what unions have done for this profession. ALPA will send a copy of flying the line to any pilot that needs it.
It is an Association not a Union.

Yes ALPA has done some great thing for the pilots and safety there is no argument there. But lately (10-20 years) WTF have they done?

This is the same union that was at PanAm, Eastern, and TWA correct? Also the same union that allows 'new hire' RJ First Officers to get paid only $17,000 a year?

I know I have said this before in other posts but god does this argument get old.
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Old 03-05-2007, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Worldguy
Just not a big fan of ALPA. But i know the point is having one is better than not having one, and i agree with you.
Exactly Worldguy!
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by NoWake200
It is an Association not a Union.

Yes ALPA has done some great thing for the pilots and safety there is no argument there. But lately (10-20 years) WTF have they done?

This is the same union that was at PanAm, Eastern, and TWA correct? Also the same union that allows 'new hire' RJ First Officers to get paid only $17,000 a year?

I know I have said this before in other posts but god does this argument get old.
Just think how it would be without a union..

$17K/yr fo's would be "PFT" and $12,000/yr like they were at ASA when I got there before ALPA.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:51 AM
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No, you see I am trying to figure out why companies like ASA, CHQ, GoJets, and Trans States even got the o.k. to fly RJs rather than the Main Line. Post have said pilots are an "all about me" bunch and nothing more could be the truth about the ALPA as well.

Believe me CE750 I understand the need for representation, however I do not think our group's best interest has really been the focus. $12K v. $17K is that really a big difference? We all pay for training in some form or another.
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Old 03-05-2007, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NoWake200
No, you see I am trying to figure out why companies like ASA, CHQ, GoJets, and Trans States even got the o.k. to fly RJs rather than the Main Line. Post have said pilots are an "all about me" bunch and nothing more could be the truth about the ALPA as well.

Believe me CE750 I understand the need for representation, however I do not think our group's best interest has really been the focus. $12K v. $17K is that really a big difference? We all pay for training in some form or another.
Point well made... I think ALPA was a bit inept with the whole RJ thing, and let it get way out of hand... but let's not blame just ALPA for that, truth be told, it could be any union that failed because in the end it's all about the membership and their will.. ALPA is nothing but a amalgamated voice of a pilot group.. and we pilots have been MIA in terms of looking past their nose.
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Old 03-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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Very true! The union is only as strong as the membership, well said CE750.
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Old 03-08-2007, 03:57 AM
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"If you want us to believe that you got MD11 F/O at FDX as a new hire, I really think you are stretching it there. "

Hello guys (and girls)... Im a new guy here, this is my first post. I have a friend that was actually hired straight into the right seat of the MD-10/MD-11 at Fedex two years ago... it does happen.

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Old 03-10-2007, 06:03 PM
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where their names "jet lag" or "Butt grease" ??????????????????
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Originally Posted by MuseumDriver
"If you want us to believe that you got MD11 F/O at FDX as a new hire, I really think you are stretching it there. "

Hello guys (and girls)... Im a new guy here, this is my first post. I have a friend that was actually hired straight into the right seat of the MD-10/MD-11 at Fedex two years ago... it does happen.
We didn't hire into the right seat of the MD-11 until last may........10 1/2 months ago., but it is true FedEx hired directly into the right seat of the MD-11. All new FO's were Anchorage based.
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