Logbook and aircraft tail numbers
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Thank you everyone for your feedback! To give closure to this scenario, the payroll department had access to the tail numbers via crewtrac. I'm buying her lunch, thanking her profusely, and committing to never do it again. She appreciated my sincerity.
For the sake of the conversation, does is anyone familiar with exactly what DAL UAL do with the logbooks? I would assume the same basic stuff that regionals and majors do, checking for common math errors or entering data under the improper categories etc is a gimme. Do they perform any means of verifications like on flight aware or something? As I said I solved my problem so my logbook is clean to my knowledge, I just like to try my best to know what I'm in for.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles" -Art of War
Thanks again for the helpful feedback
For the sake of the conversation, does is anyone familiar with exactly what DAL UAL do with the logbooks? I would assume the same basic stuff that regionals and majors do, checking for common math errors or entering data under the improper categories etc is a gimme. Do they perform any means of verifications like on flight aware or something? As I said I solved my problem so my logbook is clean to my knowledge, I just like to try my best to know what I'm in for.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles" -Art of War
Thanks again for the helpful feedback
#25
Your point?
Perhaps you can enlighten us by sharing the citation from the CFR that makes recording the N-number mandatory. In fact, while you're at it, you should show us what items are required for the logbook, what color the pages should be, and how many lines and columns should be displayed per page. Oh, and I've always wondered, should I be logging time as hours and minutes or as hours and tenths?
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Perhaps you can enlighten us by sharing the citation from the CFR that makes recording the N-number mandatory. In fact, while you're at it, you should show us what items are required for the logbook, what color the pages should be, and how many lines and columns should be displayed per page. Oh, and I've always wondered, should I be logging time as hours and minutes or as hours and tenths?
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In today's hiring market one can certainly afford that attitude.
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#27
There is no citation. It's about "attention to detail", something that the guy/gal sitting across from the candidate at the interview table will notice an apparent lack of. So go ahead and roll your eyes. If you think not keeping track of something as simple as tail numbers won't affect an outcome at an interview, then by all means, don't bother with the information. Impress the interviewer with your knowledge of CFR's and how you're only required to log for currency anyways.
In today's hiring market one can certainly afford that attitude.
I've already impressed the last interviewer I will ever need to impress, but I'm sure you're the interview expert, so feel free to preach your opinion as gospel. Black ink or blue? I've heard some interviewers want to see blue ink so they'll know it's original, and not a photocopy.
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Thank you everyone for your feedback! To give closure to this scenario, the payroll department had access to the tail numbers via crewtrac. I'm buying her lunch, thanking her profusely, and committing to never do it again. She appreciated my sincerity.
For the sake of the conversation, does is anyone familiar with exactly what DAL UAL do with the logbooks? I would assume the same basic stuff that regionals and majors do, checking for common math errors or entering data under the improper categories etc is a gimme. Do they perform any means of verifications like on flight aware or something? As I said I solved my problem so my logbook is clean to my knowledge, I just like to try my best to know what I'm in for.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles" -Art of War
Thanks again for the helpful feedback
For the sake of the conversation, does is anyone familiar with exactly what DAL UAL do with the logbooks? I would assume the same basic stuff that regionals and majors do, checking for common math errors or entering data under the improper categories etc is a gimme. Do they perform any means of verifications like on flight aware or something? As I said I solved my problem so my logbook is clean to my knowledge, I just like to try my best to know what I'm in for.
"If you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles" -Art of War
Thanks again for the helpful feedback
#30
Originally Posted by CFR §61.51 Pilot logbooks.
§61.51 Pilot logbooks.
(a) Training time and aeronautical experience. Each person must document and record the following time in a manner acceptable to the Administrator:
(1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part.
(2) The aeronautical experience required for meeting the recent flight experience requirements of this part.
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, flight training device, or aviation training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109 of this chapter.
(a) Training time and aeronautical experience. Each person must document and record the following time in a manner acceptable to the Administrator:
(1) Training and aeronautical experience used to meet the requirements for a certificate, rating, or flight review of this part.
(2) The aeronautical experience required for meeting the recent flight experience requirements of this part.
(b) Logbook entries. For the purposes of meeting the requirements of paragraph (a) of this section, each person must enter the following information for each flight or lesson logged:
(1) General—
(i) Date.
(ii) Total flight time or lesson time.
(iii) Location where the aircraft departed and arrived, or for lessons in a flight simulator or flight training device, the location where the lesson occurred.
(iv) Type and identification of aircraft, flight simulator, flight training device, or aviation training device, as appropriate.
(v) The name of a safety pilot, if required by §91.109 of this chapter.
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