United pilots in trouble after drinking...
09-18-2016, 04:12 PM
#132
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09-18-2016, 06:37 PM
#134
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Whoa! If you reek of alcohol, and decide to fly as a pilot, why shouldn't your crew do that? Anyone who turns in a drunk crew is not a snitch, but should be given a 'Safety Award' by that airline.
09-18-2016, 08:16 PM
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The Wall street swine don't care about soul's, they only care about their bonus money. So, a passenger has a choice, pay your money and take your chances. Fortunately for you, your interests happen to be aligned with the pilots flying the airplane.
We will take care of you because we are humans, but save us the lecture. And, please do us a favor, hold off exhibiting that middle finger while we walk our picket lines, we may be asking for things that will probably benefit you.
09-18-2016, 08:16 PM
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Or you could be a man and confront the guy. At least give him a chance to not show up to fly and maybe get some help.
09-18-2016, 09:05 PM
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Perhaps there has been successful interventions in the past when the captain may have appeared to be physically impaired. Does UAL schedule RFOs for Transatlantic flights? Could he/she have intervened in this latest case? What type of training does UAL provide when situations such as this arise?
Buscappy, you write "poor captain", as he was the victim of foul play in Heathrow. How about the poor paying customers that have a right to and expect to have a physically fit and sober crew?
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09-18-2016, 10:50 PM
#138
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One passenger or 400 in the back makes no difference, as I occasionally share with a nervous passenger, "It just so happens that your fate is intimately intertwined with my own." When things start getting complicated the guiding philosophy is "What gives me the best chance of getting home to my wife and kids?"
I call it enlightened self-interest.
09-19-2016, 05:34 AM
#139
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Personal restraint and professionalism should eliminate this problem. Having a beer or 2 with a meal is a lot different from hitting the ground in Europe and seeing how many pubs you can visit in one overnight, or testing how many beers or shots it takes you to pass out.
You've got a couple hundred people putting their lives in our hands.....they've never met us before, don't know us out of uniform, but they trust us to do our best to get them from A to B safely. If you can't honestly say you've done everything you can to uphold that bond of trust they have in us before each flight, you're doing it wrong.
You've got a couple hundred people putting their lives in our hands.....they've never met us before, don't know us out of uniform, but they trust us to do our best to get them from A to B safely. If you can't honestly say you've done everything you can to uphold that bond of trust they have in us before each flight, you're doing it wrong.
09-19-2016, 11:19 AM
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I'm not going to go into details, Our last overnight I didn't like how he handle himself at the restrurants / bar. If I felt he shouldn't be flying the next day, I would have said something. His name came up a few times when I flew with a handful of ex Colgan guys after that trip. By that time he already went to United. Did I say United should or shouldn't hire from a certain group? You know better. All I did was simply stated where we flew together, before he left for United. We could be flying at xyz airline and it wouldn't make any difference
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