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Old 08-31-2016, 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by krudawg
I was kind of wondering the same thing. I notice that the Van driver in LHR always goes into the security room - most times ahead of us. Could he signal security. I mean, he hears the pilots talk about what they did after all , on their layover including most times about where they had a beer. Maybe not? But it is kind of strange how our guys get busted especially the ones with very low readings that would be legal over in the states. I recommend any conversation about bar hopping or whatever not be done whilst in the van.

rumours have it that the poor capt that got busted at heathrow a few yrs back was turned in by a scorned stewie

so maybe ppl will snitch and turn us in

be careful on layovers overseas
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Old 08-31-2016, 04:13 PM
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. I think special "Glasgow" rules might be prudent. In fact anyone who's flown into LHR knows what a pain security is, maybe the EU airports are trying to one up each other.
Not only Glasgow: AA had a similar case in Mamchester a few years ago. All ove the papers and CNN.
After all was said and done, the verdict was: Innocent.
Forgot the details, but seem to remember he was late for pick-up.
Put on his uniform, cabbed it to the airport and tried to pass security to call in sick in ops, or some such thing.
The union was mum on details and so was the company. Private and personal matter.
He got away however.
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Old 09-04-2016, 08:11 PM
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I have had security people step close with a cheerful "Good morning, Captain." Sometimes subtle, sometimes not. Likely many reading this have seen the same. They are not being nice; they are after you. They are hunting big game, seeking a trophy- your head mounted on their wall.

0.02, 0.04, 8 hours, 12 hours...whatever. The cardinal rule is: Don't whiz away your entire career over a night of drinking.

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Old 09-05-2016, 07:40 PM
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As an aspiring pilot.. Is it THAT hard to just NOT drink? I've made this a personal rule that as long as my goals are to fly, I will never have one sip. This seems like it should be so ridiculously easy to prevent.

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Old 09-05-2016, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DP89
As an aspiring pilot.. Is it THAT hard to just NOT drink? I've made this a personal rule that as long as my goals are to fly, I will never have one sip. This seems like it should be so ridiculously easy to prevent.

I haven't read all the posts yet...so please don't attack me. ��
Uh... seriously? Not drink for the 30/40 years that you're in this occupation? Most of us have the self control and restraint that it's never even an issue. If you can't trust yourself to have a glass of wine or a beer here or there because you think you can't control yourself, you have some serious problems.
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I made it a personal rule not to masturbate in public.
That must be a tough one for you to stick to.
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Old 09-05-2016, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
Uh... seriously? Not drink for the 30/40 years that you're in this occupation? Most of us have the self control and restraint that it's never even an issue. If you can't trust yourself to have a glass of wine or a beer here or there because you think you can't control yourself, you have some serious problems.
Some airlines overseas BAC their crews as they report for duty. There was at least one carrier I worked for overseas that tested pilots when positioning on company business, (not our block off travel)) in plain clothes too. Many carriers from overseas have zero tolerance. The meter had better show all zeros after blowing. Otherwise you be asked to resign your membership from their flying club. If lucky offenders be grounded for no less than 3 months without pay. A repeat offense results in termination. During my work pattern, I choose to abstain, even on long layovers. I'm happy to sit on my deck at home, during my block off, sipping on my adult beverage of choice. I don't want to be the subject of a witch hunt.

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Old 09-05-2016, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Some airlines overseas BAC their crews as they report for duty. There was at least one carrier I worked for overseas that tested pilots when positioning on company business, (not our block off travel)) in plain clothes too. Many carriers from overseas have zero tolerance. The meter had better show all zeros after blowing. Otherwise you be asked to resign your membership from their flying club. If lucky offenders be grounded for no less than 3 months without pay. A repeat offense results in termination. During my work pattern, I choose to abstain, even on long layovers. I'm happy to sit on my deck at home, during my block off, sipping on my adult beverage of choice. I don't want to be the subject of a witch hunt.
Then I'm glad I fly freight. We actually get treated as adults, and I think we all respect the rules. Have never flown with a single person that I had a question about. It seems very clear, and easy to follow the rules, with no worries.
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Originally Posted by captjns
Some airlines overseas BAC their crews as they report for duty. There was at least one carrier I worked for overseas that tested pilots when positioning on company business, (not our block off travel)) in plain clothes too. Many carriers from overseas have zero tolerance. The meter had better show all zeros after blowing. Otherwise you be asked to resign your membership from their flying club. If lucky offenders be grounded for no less than 3 months without pay. A repeat offense results in termination. During my work pattern, I choose to abstain, even on long layovers. I'm happy to sit on my deck at home, during my block off, sipping on my adult beverage of choice. I don't want to be the subject of a witch hunt.
I fly pax and our carrier lets you imbibe even on a deadhead as long as you are not and will not be going back into uniform.
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Originally Posted by captjns
Some airlines overseas BAC their crews as they report for duty. There was at least one carrier I worked for overseas that tested pilots when positioning on company business, (not our block off travel)) in plain clothes too. Many carriers from overseas have zero tolerance. The meter had better show all zeros after blowing. Otherwise you be asked to resign your membership from their flying club. If lucky offenders be grounded for no less than 3 months without pay. A repeat offense results in termination. During my work pattern, I choose to abstain, even on long layovers. I'm happy to sit on my deck at home, during my block off, sipping on my adult beverage of choice. I don't want to be the subject of a witch hunt.
Must suck to be treated like you're 12.
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