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Old 03-24-2016, 08:14 AM
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The redundancy in routes for JB and VA shouldn't be a bad thing. With redundancy, you can add more frequency which is what business travellers truly want. The legacies offer this sometimes 12 flights a day to some of their markets while the most VX or JB have is 6 in some instances. When a market becomes too saturated, like JFK or BOS from the west coast, you launch new cities from the west coast, like CLT, RDU, PHX, so on and so forth. With the merger, JB benefits with the great presence that Virgin does have on the west coast with their assets via gate space and slots while adding an ETOPS program for the A320.

Ideally, I feel like if Hainan did buy a minority share in VX, that would benefit Virgin more because they'd want to invest in more airplanes ASAP to expand its network in the US.
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Sale Rumors help Virgin America (VA) Shares Soar | InvestorPlace

Interesting little tid bit. All or nothing. This would lean more to the full purchase of Virgin by another airline, in my option.
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IMHO, I think Spirit, not a fortune teller or a biz man, but I do remember few years back a couple of ex Ex of VA went from VA to NKS,...again, I might be wrong, but it will be the perfect match, those exec's might have given some knowledge and ideas toNKS...Spirit is looking, has been looking, at the West Coast market for a while now...
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Old 03-24-2016, 06:38 PM
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Delta.............. makes sense with the Virgin Atlantic investment.
Dude...dude. Two different companies who's only tie is Branson owns parts and they pay royalties for branding. That is IT.

Delta has 0% stake in VX - Virgin **America**

Virgin ATLANTIC is it's own thing, and is UK based.

In your defense everyone thinks they are waaayy more related than they are lol.
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Originally Posted by Foodstamps
Dude...dude. Two different companies who's only tie is Branson owns parts and they pay royalties for branding. That is IT.

Delta has 0% stake in VX - Virgin **America**

Virgin ATLANTIC is it's own thing, and is UK based.

In your defense everyone thinks they are waaayy more related than they are lol.
Wait, so you're telling me I won't get that flow through to Virgin Galactic? Damn.
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Originally Posted by Foodstamps
Dude...dude. Two different companies who's only tie is Branson owns parts and they pay royalties for branding. That is IT.

Delta has 0% stake in VX - Virgin **America**

Virgin ATLANTIC is it's own thing, and is UK based.

In your defense everyone thinks they are waaayy more related than they are lol.
Kind of, but VX Holdings LP (the Branson subsidiary that has a significant stake in VX) is just a subsidiary of the Virgin Group which also has a subsidiary that has a significant stake in Virgin Atlantic.

To say they're different is just lawyerspeak. It all leads back to the Virgin Group.

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Wait, so you're telling me I won't get that flow through to Virgin Galactic? Damn.
Virgin Galactic is just another Virgin Group subsidiary.
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Richard Anderson be gone.
Not yet. Doubt he will be entirely for a long time. Doesn't mean squat in relation to a Virgin acquisition but don't assume RA is gone. Yet.
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Originally Posted by CaYaTeKbron
IMHO, I think Spirit, not a fortune teller or a biz man, but I do remember few years back a couple of ex Ex of VA went from VA to NKS,...again, I might be wrong, but it will be the perfect match, those exec's might have given some knowledge and ideas toNKS...Spirit is looking, has been looking, at the West Coast market for a while now...
Spirit could almost make the acquisition in cash with close to a billion on hand it has.
The only issue is you all will just have to get used to working for 45% less than other majors.
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JB's model is closer to VA's model than Spirit's. The JB-VA merger makes a lot more sense since the route structures are complementary and VA does not have a large presence out of JFK beyond the transcon flights to Cali.

I highly doubt any Legacy would get a crack at VA given the current regulatory environment. JB+VA makes sense on many levels.
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Originally Posted by David Puddy
JB's model is closer to VA's model than Spirit's. The JB-VA merger makes a lot more sense since the route structures are complementary and VA does not have a large presence out of JFK beyond the transcon flights to Cali.

I highly doubt any Legacy would get a crack at VA given the current regulatory environment. JB+VA makes sense on many levels.
Certainly not an expert, but it seems airlines that merge have fewer overlapping routes. The whole point is to expand, not just add frequency?? Other than Hawaii, Jblu and VX walk all over each other.

Personally my money is on HAL, maybe an attempt by a legacy or another investor. I highly doubt Spirit or Frontier.

I'm also wondering if the headlines were more for a stock pump than anything? They've been pretty flat since IPO.

It's all fun and games.. .

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