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Old 04-03-2016, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
If you go back over the history of VX, you'll see that Branson and the VCs have a LOT of dead money in the VX project. A sales price of $2B is probably close to breakeven for them. And that's ignoring the time value of money.

I find it interesting that they're looking at selling now, when they've finally got some positive cash flow. I'm wondering if the costs of bringing in another ten aircraft in a declining RASM environment is creating negative cash flow.
Probably sell now because this is as good as it will ever get.............
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I agree, this is way too soon for any SLI talks. Don't let some arrogant select few jetBlue pilots start a fight over AK/VX.
So, DB tries to keep it positive, and you "agree" with him by poking another pilot group in the chest? I know B6 has some smack talkers, but if you agree with the man, try to live up to it.
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WSJ says its AK for $2.5 B.
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Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand
WSJ says its AK for $2.5 B.


That's a lot of money just to remove a small competitor.
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
That's a lot of money just to remove a small competitor.
That money is spent to prevent an even bigger and more serious competitor from forming (B6+VX). B6 has set their eyes of developing the West coast, and that spells trouble for AS if we wind up with VX.
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
That's a lot of money just to remove a small competitor.
It's likely an all stock transaction. And it kills competition so that ticket prices will move higher - a good thing for those of us in the industry.
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Originally Posted by Andy
It's likely an all stock transaction. And it kills competition so that ticket prices will move higher - a good thing for those of us in the industry.
Sounds like a cash buyout according to the WSJ. Alaska has a better balance sheet and can get better financing than we can.


Alaska Air Nears Virgin America Deal After Frenzied Bidding

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Alaska Air Group Inc. is expected to announce Monday that it won the auction for Virgin America Inc., besting rival JetBlue Airways Corp. in a frenzied bidding process that culminated in a cash price of about $2.5 billion, according to people familiar with the matter.

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Bidding between Alaska Airlines’ parent and JetBlue was feverish, this person said, with the price continuing to rise. Alaska prevailed in part because of its clean balance sheet, which will allow it to more easily borrow funds for the acquisition, the person said.

A person familiar with the jousting said it was “a fierce back and forth between the two sides, with multiple bids for a number of days.” But ultimately, JetBlue “put the pencil down” because the price had gotten too high.
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Sounds like a cash buyout according to the WSJ. Alaska has a better balance sheet and can get better financing than we can.


Alaska Air Nears Virgin America Deal After Frenzied Bidding

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Alaska Air Group Inc. is expected to announce Monday that it won the auction for Virgin America Inc., besting rival JetBlue Airways Corp. in a frenzied bidding process that culminated in a cash price of about $2.5 billion, according to people familiar with the matter.

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Bidding between Alaska Airlines’ parent and JetBlue was feverish, this person said, with the price continuing to rise. Alaska prevailed in part because of its clean balance sheet, which will allow it to more easily borrow funds for the acquisition, the person said.

A person familiar with the jousting said it was “a fierce back and forth between the two sides, with multiple bids for a number of days.” But ultimately, JetBlue “put the pencil down” because the price had gotten too high.
Hell of a "fire sale". Virgin America managed to sell itself for double its pre-merger rumor market cap if this turns out to be true.
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Old 04-03-2016, 03:08 PM
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Hell of a "fire sale". Virgin America managed to sell itself for double its pre-merger rumor market cap if this turns out to be true.
If you didn't like some of the SLI ideas of Jetblue pilots, wait till you hear the Alaska bubbas.
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If that WSJ article is correct, I'm glad B6 management was able to walk away from the table.

This is good news for our negotiators. If management was willing to drop almost $2.5 billion on VX, they can surely afford the contract we deserve and enjoy the benefits of a happy and motivated pilot group. This event just reinforces the importance of negotiating a solid scope clause and merger language in the contract.

Coincidentally, I remember hearing if we were to ever buy widebodies, it would be a fleet of at least 15, costing roughly $2 billion.

Now, if this plays out the way it's looking and B6 doesn't buy VX, my one disappointment will be missing out on the linguistic gymnastics involved in explaining an acquisition after years of beating the organic growth drum. That was going to be a classic email.
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