VA Weighs Sale After Receiving Interest
03-29-2016, 04:50 PM
#292
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03-29-2016, 04:50 PM
#293
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This thread is pure comedy.
Shyguy, you're delusional.
It's been funny to watch the Bluejet pilots board as this thread has developed. The general consensus has changed based on the VA pilots posting in this thread. It's gone from sort of reasonable to F them staple or maybe a preferential interview. I know it's hard to see from the inside but the VA pilots are not career equals.
I know the guys on our merger committee and have faith in their ability. I also know we have a contract with Bluejet that dictates how people come onto our list.
Does VA have any kind of individual contract that protects you guys in a merger?
Shyguy, you're delusional.
It's been funny to watch the Bluejet pilots board as this thread has developed. The general consensus has changed based on the VA pilots posting in this thread. It's gone from sort of reasonable to F them staple or maybe a preferential interview. I know it's hard to see from the inside but the VA pilots are not career equals.
I know the guys on our merger committee and have faith in their ability. I also know we have a contract with Bluejet that dictates how people come onto our list.
Does VA have any kind of individual contract that protects you guys in a merger?
03-29-2016, 04:52 PM
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03-29-2016, 05:09 PM
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To quote the awesome movie Stripes, "Lighten up Francis". If you are not actually involved with the merger committees, you need to shut your soup coolers. Your keyboard courage is doing nothing for the cause of which ever side your on. You are only hurting your side by alienating the people you may someday be sharing a cockpit with. Again if you are not on the MEC or merger committee, you have no say in how this will go down.
03-29-2016, 05:15 PM
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This really sheds light on how amazingly amazing some of you people are. There is something to be said for guys working at JetBlue before VX even existed. There is also something to be said for the senior guys here that left other companies to help create the VX of today. A proper integration should marginally hurt any one pilot's seniority and QOL at worst. Not that I'm advocating it and assuming we don't shrink, if, and that's a big if, this does come to fruition, even a complete relative seniority list integration wouldn't significantly hurt any one on either side. They would still be bidding the same percentage, holding the same trips, vacation, etc. Not only that, but even just keeping your relative position in the new company, your QOL would be increased. You'd have a stronger company with increased job stability, more bases to choose from, more places to fly to including an approved ETOPs program and many other benefits you get with an increased economy of scale and the synergy created by merging two profitable companies. (11.6% operating margin for VX is pretty good. Not quite as good as JB this year, but better than they did last year.)
I don't understand why you'd want to staple someone when you'd be no worse than you currently are by embracing your future coworkers and trying to create the least damaging solution for everyone you will be working with. What happens if your company gets gobbled up in 5,10,20 years from now and you have to start all over?
Though our companies are similar in many respects, there are many differences affecting the career progression and QOL each pilot group has or could have expected. The solution should be somewhere in the middle. The JetBlue pilots I know certainly don't want to screw us at Virgin, but they rightfully don't want to be screwed themselves. I think both sides of this discussion have been a bit abrasive and I hope the VX and JB pilots can see the people commenting here represent themselves, not their pilot group.
I don't understand why you'd want to staple someone when you'd be no worse than you currently are by embracing your future coworkers and trying to create the least damaging solution for everyone you will be working with. What happens if your company gets gobbled up in 5,10,20 years from now and you have to start all over?
Though our companies are similar in many respects, there are many differences affecting the career progression and QOL each pilot group has or could have expected. The solution should be somewhere in the middle. The JetBlue pilots I know certainly don't want to screw us at Virgin, but they rightfully don't want to be screwed themselves. I think both sides of this discussion have been a bit abrasive and I hope the VX and JB pilots can see the people commenting here represent themselves, not their pilot group.
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