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Old 03-29-2016, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
So basically 1600 guys that are me-me-me!

No wonder it took a union so dang long to show up.
Good point.

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Old 03-29-2016, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by antbar01
You already voted in your ALPA reps, the die is cast.

It's a good thing VX MEC is all about "We".

We've got bigger fish to to worry about integrating, such as which management personnel stay and which ones go.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:25 AM
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The two groups will never merge. VX will be used to whipsaw JB pilots. Chew on that.
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
The two groups will never merge. VX will be used to whipsaw JB pilots. Chew on that.
ALPA wont permit that. I'm not rah-rah, but that's just flat out not an option.
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Originally Posted by sulkair
Interesting too there is no real AS presence in this thread? To me this indicates it probably will be B6 & VX. Kinda like a crowd prediction market.
I wouldn't discount good 'ol Alaskan Airways. The boys at puzzle palace have the $$$ to outbid ya'll. The question is, how bad do they want it. After the Sun Country fall out, the eskimo seems to be pretty dang desperate for a dancing partner.
In regards to SLI that has yet to happen, it cracks me up that folks are already bickering over something that no line pilot has control over. Wake the f-up and grow up because we're all in this together. Management must be laughing all the way to the bank!
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:37 AM
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Management must be laughing all the way to the bank!
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:42 AM
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Yeah the jury isn't in yet. Good old Alaska has the money. Now the question is how much are they willing to part with....
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Old 03-29-2016, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by aldonite7667
The two groups will never merge. VX will be used to whipsaw JB pilots. Chew on that.
And then the new parent company will spin off a new subsidiary airline to fly smaller jets with a new seniority list when the stapled pilots don't agree on a pay scale. The new airline will be called.....FreedomJets.
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I'm a JetBlue E190 guy, probably a little shy of upgrade being a late 2013 hire. I have never been through a merger. I have seen compelling cases made for both DOH and Relative integration methods, and I can honestly say I don't know which is better or more equitable. I do however think we need to choose one that is as impartial as possible.

If this thing happens I'm going from a career expectation of Airbus Captain someday with the possibility of maybe getting wide bodies down the road, to an expectation of airbus captain and maybe getting wide bodies down the road. Seems little changes. It also seems fleet size will likely grow proportionally so not much relative displacement. I could be wrong but this makes sense to me.

The bickering we have seen in past mergers has only weakened the respective pilot groups. Assuming we do merge, it seems we can only be a stronger carrier by unifying as quickly as possible and getting the best contract we can.

Frankly, I think JB and VA make the most sense out of all the options and only strengthens both groups. I sincerely hope we can rise above the pettiness in order to work out what are valid issues in a way that moves us all toward a better career in general.
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Originally Posted by cencal83406
So basically 1600 guys that are me-me-me!

No wonder it took a union so dang long to show up.
most of them have Tricare or white leather sneakers.
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