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Old 01-15-2016, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dckozak
Not to defend anything on guard that isn't appropriate, but if you have a boat and monitor 16 (USCG guard) you will hear radio abuse on a continuous basis that is beyond sad. Boater's (have a community) that is so unprofessional and unaware of what the radio is for as to make monitoring the emergency channel almost impossible on the weekends in the summer.
And this is relevant because???
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by deadseal
Are you saying that while on probation you would tell your captain to stop screwing off on guard? You are either dumb or a liar
What garbage major airline and people are you at that you have unprofessional people jerkin' around on guard? Maybe that'll fly at your regional and you're too afraid to speak up but that doesn't happen at the majors.
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Not backing down, eh? You reinforce my point kid.

RhinoPherret - Too true, thanks. I also think some guys just can't help but try to get in the last word, as if that makes them right. I try not to start or get involved in spear chucking on these forums, but sometimes trouble finds me.
Boy, I have more time over the outer marker than you do in your entire logbook. Don't call me son.
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Old 01-15-2016, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
Don't call me son.
Actually, I didn't. But I do think I see some subtle humor in your post. I will give you the last word and move on...

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Boy, I have more time over the outer marker than you do in your entire logbook. Don't call me son.
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Old 01-15-2016, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
I've stopped monitoring guard east of the Rockies now.
As have I. No more 121.5 for me - 98% of my flying is single pilot IFR in low / middle altitudes and I have to concentrate. I'd always turn it lower than the main comm but just gave up when idiotic banter keeps on drowning out center. At night or over the midwest it seems to be better and I keep it on.
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:08 PM
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Oh shucks. We're just ol' truck drivers of the skies, talkin' and chattin' on the ol' CB radio! Breaker breaker one niner good buddy!
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Old 01-15-2016, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Laughing_Jakal
First, I'm far from being a "Guard Hawk", and I've got a reasonable sense of humor (I think).....but in the last six months, I've heard more inane, immature "stuff" over guard than I have in the previous 25 years of flying to the point it's getting in the way of normal communication.

I was asked to call another a/c on guard and transmit a frequency to a crew who missed a handoff.....the whole time, we were interrupted by a guy who was obviously making fun of "Guard Nazi's", by snickering and saying "You're on Guard!....then a response "you're on Guard too!"...."no.....you're on Guard!"

I mentioned this to the pilot I was flying with in Miami two days ago, and he shook his head and said "I've heard the same"...Now we're not talking about the occasional funny caustic comment when someone makes a whole PA over Guard, or the like. Now he is all of about 35, but he said it is all the "young guys/gals" coming up who have "no sense of professionalism". He said it was rampant where he came from. (He's been flying since 15).

Not 5 minutes later, we hear "Hello"...."hello"...."hello"....."Hello"...ma ybe 10 times with a good 10 sec break between the calls....finally someone says "You're transmitting on guard"...simple, unemotional, just data transfer.....the the response comes "<snicker>...there he is...I found him...'The Guard Nazi'".

Meanwhile, folks calling for push and taxi clearance couldn't get a word in edgewise on ground it was so busy.

Later, same flight, someone pops off with "Livin the dream!" in the same voice from the youtube video. Two weeks ago, I hear "work, work, work, contract, work"...also from the video.

The only thing I can figure is that with the advent of social media, some of our "professional" brethren are treating guard as a "twitter post"....trying to be funny over guard to untold masses in an attempt to get social validation in return.

What disturbs me even more is that either they are Captains or the Captains they are flying with condone this behavior. We can make this job fun in the cockpit....but the childish behavior is going to bite us in the rear sometime.

I figure this post will nominate me for "Tool of the day"....I guess the benefit of being an old crusty guy (50) is that I really don't give a %#$#.

For the record, that essay that circulated about the guy monitoring guard with the quivering toothpick in his mouth was hilarious and I wish I had a copy.......but the baiting and nonsense has really gotten out of control lately.
I had an almost identical experience as you a swear I was flying with you except for the fact I wasn't in Miami - SFO!

I agree 100% and had the same reaction!
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Why not take these idiots to pro standards? Seems like that would put a stop to most of it...

I honestly wouldn't know though, I've never flown with an idiot that transmits their retardation on guard.
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Old 01-16-2016, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by RadarColor
And this is relevant because???
It shows that the mental retardation required to screw around on guard isn't just endemic to pilots, but is wide spread in the larger general population. As such, that means there's not much hope of stopping it from happening.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:13 AM
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You guys are so entertaining! I don't need to say "Guaaarrrrdddd" anymore. I can just come on here and read about the all the hurt feelings instead.

I'm kidding of course. As much as the "Guarrdddddd" hijinks is annoying, it and the YouTube "living the dream pt2", was born from a little bit of reality:
Way before these shenanigans, the same scenario as the YouTube video occurred to me. As I broadcast on guard at ATC's request, an old crusty voice jumped on to berate me for being on guard - "this is a guard emergency frequency". All too often I have heard that. The rumor was it was old crusty Delta pilots.
Either way, this thread is a perfect example of an older generation "blaming" a younger generation. You make us all look like the jerks. Get over yourselves.
- a 63 year old pilot.
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Old 01-16-2016, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguyniner11
All the generation blaming is hilarious. Every generation has been critical of younger generations. Thinking they are better and more hard working. It's funny.

It has nothing to do with "generational blaming." It is about maturity. By definition the younger you are the more immature that you are. With larger numbers of younger Pilots getting hired we are getting more and more immature idiots that think talking on an emergency frequency is funny - it is pathetic.

This problem is only now reaching epidemic proportions and we have had guard for over 50 years - ask yourselves why?

Why do we not hear it over the oceans - not as many young Pilots flying over the ponds.

Make no mistake - I am sure that over 95% of the young Pilots are extremely professional but unfortunately a few buffoons are tarnishing the image of a lot of professional pilots.

Finally it does not matter if you are the crusty old a-hole acting as the self appointed guard police or a 23 year old punk with a stunted sense of humor - both are wrong. If you hear someone mistakenly broadcast on guard a simple "Check you frequency" works well and is about all that we should ever hear on guard other then legitimate ATC requests and emergencies.

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