A tale of two new hires. Let it be a warning.
10-15-2015, 10:25 AM
#81
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Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
Posts: 1,602
Trying to verify this but word is one of our CAs - to whom the FAs have devoted an "I hate CA so and so" Facebook page - returned to the gate and had all three removed for texting during taxi out. How did he presumably know? The cameras in the back. Little dubious proof I'd say(not enough resolution to prove conclusive texting in my book), and again, trying to get an official source on this. Interesting nonetheless.
10-15-2015, 05:31 PM
#82
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: A320/321 CA
Posts: 119
10-16-2015, 09:35 AM
#83
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: 7ER Capt
Posts: 461
This kind of thinking is just plain Nutz!
We are entrusted with our crew's and passenger's LIVES... there is NO greater responsiblilty!... it is a VERY big deal!
Sheesh.
10-16-2015, 10:54 AM
#84
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 3,716
Don't be so sure. At said airline, before start checklists were subsequently amended to include PEDs off.
I had a captain (PF) answer a call from his wife on short final (<500 ft). He said your airplane. It was important, happened once and was no big deal in the scheme of things.
Check ride or on probation...
I had a captain (PF) answer a call from his wife on short final (<500 ft). He said your airplane. It was important, happened once and was no big deal in the scheme of things.
Check ride or on probation...
10-16-2015, 12:47 PM
#85
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
This. My second-to-last trip as an Embraer Captain I had a 4-leg turn with a brand-new, 26 year old guy. Sharp, good airman, couldn't stop talking about his girlfriend. After the last landing in BOS we are sitting in that no-man's land on M between 33L and 4L at Q... Tower clears us to cross after a landing SAAB and no response on the radio, look right and he's on the phone. I apologize to tower for the missed call and tell the little snot we aren't going anywhere till he gets his tail off the phone. Needless to say the cockpit door was closed during deplaning and the debrief was, lively shall we say.... Un-effing believable. And before you young guys get all butt-hurt, I'm aware that older dudes in the left seat have also been guilty....
GP
10-16-2015, 12:53 PM
#86
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
Well I'll give you credit for the successful Trumping.. When in doubt, double down and hope for the best. I'll stand by my suggestion that you are probably miserable to fly with. And if for some reason anybody does enjoy flying with you, it's most likely out of a feeling of nostalgia for a clownish impersonation of a captain from the 1960's. Carry on..
Professionalism vs. Hurt feelings for not abiding by the rules and being called out on it.
GP
10-16-2015, 09:03 PM
#87
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Position: "Prof" button manipulator
Posts: 1,685
Take a step back from the keyboard - HERO - and try to understand how hypocritical your posts look/sound. Try to have a little humility and quit bragging about being a petty theif.
Last edited by Elliot; 10-16-2015 at 09:18 PM.
10-16-2015, 09:55 PM
#88
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Posts: 173
It's not the "calling out" that was the issue, it was the childish and unprofessional act of confiscating the cell phone battery. Crewmembers are not children, and despite the FO acting innapropriately, this particular captain's handling of the situation is in no way justified in a professional environment. You don't answer one act of immaturity with another. I would have no issue with the captain addressing his fellow crewmember and telling the FO that his actions were out of line. I do, however, take issue with the fact that this captain felt the need to act like he was the FO's father and take away his toy, as if that would some how prove a point or accomplish anything. I guess when it comes down to it, I'm much more appalled by the captain's inability to run a professional cockpit than I am by the FO's innapropriate use of his mobile device.
Last edited by WelcomeToBen; 10-16-2015 at 10:35 PM.
10-17-2015, 02:12 AM
#90
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Posts: 5,995
In two separate posts, on the previous page, you admit to theft of a person's personal property AND then have the gall to tell someone else you don't have the time for "lack of discipline or respect?" REALLY?!?!
Take a step back from the keyboard - HERO - and try to understand how hypocritical your posts look/sound. Try to have a little humility and quit bragging about being a petty theif.
Take a step back from the keyboard - HERO - and try to understand how hypocritical your posts look/sound. Try to have a little humility and quit bragging about being a petty theif.
There was no theft involved.
Took out the battery and gave the phone back to him. Told Junior, if he was a good little doobie, he'd get his battery back after the last flight of the day.
Now you and Ben just sit in the corner and drink your milk and eat your cookies and whimper just how captjns is a meanie weenie for demanding professional behavior in accordance with the policy and procedures of company procedures and manuals as imparted during I doc. It's OK
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