A tale of two new hires. Let it be a warning.
10-06-2015, 06:10 AM
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Posts: 574
Ha lol your so right. I continuously see good guys that have been at the regionals for years and just assuming they have decent records because I know they have the time can't even get a phone call.
I'm just going out on a limb here but it can't be these two jerk offs first rhodeo.
I'm just going out on a limb here but it can't be these two jerk offs first rhodeo.
10-06-2015, 06:18 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
I can't figure out the point that our society became so obsessed with being connected. Commuting 2 work, 2 "Precious Metals" occupied the aisle seats near me. On their phones from the moment they stepped on board until they were chastised by the FA for texting while taxiing out. Once the FA walked away and we sat in line for a few more minutes, they both disregarded the rules and turned them off Airplane Mode and went right back to texting.
I, for one, enjoy being "off the grid" for couple of hours commuting to and from work.
I, for one, enjoy being "off the grid" for couple of hours commuting to and from work.
Older folks always complain about phones and headphones. A captain said something to me about my phone/headphones once (which I always take off before approaching the gate). I was listening to a Great Courses lecture - the kind of thing that saves me from the monotony of flying an airplane around while listening to sh*tty jokes about strippers and minorities all day.
10-06-2015, 06:24 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: MD-11 FO
Posts: 2,219
"On their phones" is sort of general. My phone has hundreds of saved articles, books, audiobooks, podcasts, textbooks for classes I'm taking, games, Duolingo, Flica, and on and on. Why don't people complain when others are constantly "on their book"? Should one sit idly instead of doing something constructive? Sure, a lot of people are probably just wasting time, but not always.
Older folks always complain about phones and headphones. A captain said something to me about my phone/headphones once (which I always take off before approaching the gate). I was listening to a Great Courses lecture - the kind of thing that saves me from the monotony of flying an airplane around while listening to sh*tty jokes about strippers and minorities all day.
Older folks always complain about phones and headphones. A captain said something to me about my phone/headphones once (which I always take off before approaching the gate). I was listening to a Great Courses lecture - the kind of thing that saves me from the monotony of flying an airplane around while listening to sh*tty jokes about strippers and minorities all day.
10-06-2015, 06:31 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
Cringeworthy terms, but the corporate crowd uses them without a second thought. I think I'd have a hard time seeming "friendly" in emails if I were ever to quit flying.
10-06-2015, 06:46 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,465
I thought UAL and Delta only hired the cream of the crop? Seriously though I'd expect this type of stuff at some of the regionals, from the 22 year old kids who've never had to work for anything in their life and have no discipline. Once you get to a major you should have enough experience in life not to do these things.
10-06-2015, 08:03 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Feb 2013
Position: Port Bus
Posts: 725
"On their phones" is sort of general. My phone has hundreds of saved articles, books, audiobooks, podcasts, textbooks for classes I'm taking, games, Duolingo, Flica, and on and on. Why don't people complain when others are constantly "on their book"? Should one sit idly instead of doing something constructive? Sure, a lot of people are probably just wasting time, but not always.
Older folks always complain about phones and headphones. A captain said something to me about my phone/headphones once (which I always take off before approaching the gate). I was listening to a Great Courses lecture - the kind of thing that saves me from the monotony of flying an airplane around while listening to sh*tty jokes about strippers and minorities all day.
Older folks always complain about phones and headphones. A captain said something to me about my phone/headphones once (which I always take off before approaching the gate). I was listening to a Great Courses lecture - the kind of thing that saves me from the monotony of flying an airplane around while listening to sh*tty jokes about strippers and minorities all day.
So you are taxing around listening to lectures, you must be really smart or something.
10-06-2015, 08:05 AM
#48
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 555
A tale of two new hires. Let it be a warning.
10-06-2015, 09:33 AM
#50
What’s it doing now?
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 190CA
Posts: 726
When I was a flight instructor I would routinely leave my phone off all day. I might check it at lunch. Many flights with quick turns and I just really didn't have time to be on it. Of course this was before smart phones but after texting. My girlfriend would complain constantly because I didn't answer her texts in a short time.
When I flew turboprops and had a smart phone I was still pretty good about it. Many flights with quick turns and so again I wouldn't be on it much at all throughout the day. Girlfriend turned wife stopped caring about it.
On the Jet now, I try to be good. I don't have any games on it, don't check apc, and I do my best to turn it off after I check the radar and buckle up before push. And it doesn't come on until after passengers are off most of the time.
When my wife was pregnant with our second child, about 4 weeks before the due date it looked hit or miss as to whether she was going to go early. Doctors were assuring me she wouldn't, but there were other signs that made me concerned. Even though I was doing a schedule that amounted to day trips or short overnights close to home, I found myself increasingly distracted. I was checking the phone all the time, fretting after takeoff that she wouldn't be able to get me for an hour or two and then it could take me many more hours to get home once we landed. I finally made the decision to call my chief pilot and dropped the rest of my trips for the last two weeks before the due date. She went late too. Yeah I burned a lot of time off and got less off after the delivery, but I could tell I was getting unsafe. For most pilots I think it's like any bad cockpit habit that we occasionally fall into. If we self examine, and work hard we can remove some of those distractions or procedural drift issues.
But yeah I think I'd fire someone who used there phone on a checkride too. Just like 10 or 15 years ago if I were on a date and they talked on their phone to someone else I would have left then and there. Assuming no one was dying or giving birth. I think if you did that now on a date, she'd tweet about it while you were still walking away.
When I flew turboprops and had a smart phone I was still pretty good about it. Many flights with quick turns and so again I wouldn't be on it much at all throughout the day. Girlfriend turned wife stopped caring about it.
On the Jet now, I try to be good. I don't have any games on it, don't check apc, and I do my best to turn it off after I check the radar and buckle up before push. And it doesn't come on until after passengers are off most of the time.
When my wife was pregnant with our second child, about 4 weeks before the due date it looked hit or miss as to whether she was going to go early. Doctors were assuring me she wouldn't, but there were other signs that made me concerned. Even though I was doing a schedule that amounted to day trips or short overnights close to home, I found myself increasingly distracted. I was checking the phone all the time, fretting after takeoff that she wouldn't be able to get me for an hour or two and then it could take me many more hours to get home once we landed. I finally made the decision to call my chief pilot and dropped the rest of my trips for the last two weeks before the due date. She went late too. Yeah I burned a lot of time off and got less off after the delivery, but I could tell I was getting unsafe. For most pilots I think it's like any bad cockpit habit that we occasionally fall into. If we self examine, and work hard we can remove some of those distractions or procedural drift issues.
But yeah I think I'd fire someone who used there phone on a checkride too. Just like 10 or 15 years ago if I were on a date and they talked on their phone to someone else I would have left then and there. Assuming no one was dying or giving birth. I think if you did that now on a date, she'd tweet about it while you were still walking away.
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