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Old 10-20-2015, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TexanDriver
Oh snap. I thought you took the tiller as in the aircraft, and then stated "You'll get this back..." Ballsy move Cotton.
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Old 10-20-2015, 08:56 PM
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Ever wonder why this profession gets screwed by incompetent dysfunctional managers? Read this thread....
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Old 10-20-2015, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
The note is put in there to probably differentiate between taxi under its own power or being repositioned by a tug. Section (c) explicitly states, "all ground operations involving taxi."

Hey man, its your ticket. If you wanna try it out, go to ORD or LGA and be number 20 for takeoff and every time you move forward, then set the brake, you can start talking about your favorite football team with a Fed in a jumpseat. Then you can show them the note and let me know the reaction.
There is no "probably" in this. It's black and white. Always has been in my 24 years as an airline pilot. The rule is: if you are moving under your own power - taxiing - sterile cockpit applies. If you are parked. It does not. It's really that simple.
Yea, I've had plenty of Feds on the Jumpseat, and we've chatted many times on the taxiway while parked. They and I know the rules.
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Old 10-21-2015, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by atooraya
I once had a captain who was super chatty while we were taxiing so I asked him to see his tiller. When he handed it over to me, I said, "You'll get this back when you can learn how to respect sterile cockpit." I can assure you he learned his lesson.
Brah, you at a commuter?

I wish I had a TMAAT story like for a major interview.

I would KILL IT!

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Old 10-21-2015, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Short Bus Drive
I understand what you guys/girls are saying. My point was the FAA can't bust you for company policy.

Uhh....your flight ops manual is FAA approved.....authorized by your POI....signed by your POI......pretty sure they can enforce a document they authorized your company to operate by.
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:46 AM
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Brah, you at a commuter?

I wish I had a TMAAT story like for a major interview.

I would KILL IT!

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Old 10-21-2015, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
There is no "probably" in this. It's black and white. Always has been in my 24 years as an airline pilot. The rule is: if you are moving under your own power - taxiing - sterile cockpit applies. If you are parked. It does not. It's really that simple.
Yea, I've had plenty of Feds on the Jumpseat, and we've chatted many times on the taxiway while parked. They and I know the rules.
I don't know about that. According to some guys on this thread you're supposed to sit on your hands on a three-hour groundstop, monitor the shut-down engines, and not engage in non-essential conversation. And if someone does have utter temerity to disregard of safety and engage in non-essential conversation with the parking brake set, the other guy is supposed to shout, "Sterile Cockpit!" and steal his cell phone battery.

That about right?
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Old 10-21-2015, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MrBojangles
I've noticed in NTSB reports lately, they actually will get the phone records and see if there was any texting or other activity during the flight.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by GogglesPisano
I don't know about that. According to some guys on this thread you're supposed to sit on your hands on a three-hour groundstop, monitor the shut-down engines, and not engage in non-essential conversation. And if someone does have utter temerity to disregard of safety and engage in non-essential conversation with the parking brake set, the other guy is supposed to shout, "Sterile Cockpit!" and steal his cell phone battery.

That about right?
No no, not even in sterile cockpit. This is in preflight preps you can start taking stuff away.
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Old 10-21-2015, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRaven
Uhh....your flight ops manual is FAA approved.....authorized by your POI....signed by your POI......pretty sure they can enforce a document they authorized your company to operate by.
OK....
I was taught different in OKC when I went through training....
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