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Old 12-16-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
To you even bother to vote?

Why?
I do vote every chance I get, and I have personally written my senators on numerous occasions. Any more questions?
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
So, PAC throws the money you guys donate away on names with a baseless reason other than these mirror foggers sign a little piece of paper saying they will help pilots? when in turn they just go after the companies who are finally making money after years of bleeding? What do you think the companies are going to do if they get hit with a higher tax, or a new tax on their fees? We know from history they go after labor.

I guess most of this is directed at the fact that I can't stand Schumer and a whole lot of other names on that list.
These douchebags will sell us out in a NY minute, just ask Emirates why they are building a Children's Hospital in DC. Money talks, BS walks.

It's a sad fact that if you want to play in DC, you have to pay. They make the rules. We have to buy as much 'support' as possible, or we may end up just like the Cruise Ship industry.

I've been giving to ALPA PAC since being a new hire. I don't like it, but it's the only game in town, so we have to pay too, or we will be replaced in short order.

This book should be required reading before voting:


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Old 12-16-2014, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
I do vote every chance I get, and I have personally written my senators on numerous occasions. Any more questions?
And I'm sure you get the same form letter responses I do, from some 22yr. old 'staffer'...

Have you joined up yet?

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Old 12-16-2014, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by cmesoar
I do vote every chance I get, and I have personally written my senators on numerous occasions. Any more questions?
And you think giving to the PAC is a waste of time. You just as well use ESP to talk to your senators.....it works just as good as writing a letter and you get the same results.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:31 AM
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Everyone mad about money in politics check out Wolf Pac. I give and just started volunteering for them.
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Old 12-16-2014, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguyniner11
Everyone mad about money in politics check out Wolf Pac. I give and just started volunteering for them.
Wolf-PAC.com
Also check out movetoamend.org
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:05 AM
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So, is this a legit reason to not vote Democrat on occasion? I doubt you'll hear any Republican agreeing with Shumer on this. But you can bet that there will be other Dems hopping on this ... I expect Liz Warren to join in; she's pretty socialistic (except for college professor pay)
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Originally Posted by Andy
So, is this a legit reason to not vote Democrat on occasion? I doubt you'll hear any Republican agreeing with Shumer on this. But you can bet that there will be other Dems hopping on this ... I expect Liz Warren to join in; she's pretty socialistic (except for college professor pay)
I don't even use the labels Democrate or Republican anymore, they're all Corporatists IMHO.
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Originally Posted by mike734
I don't even use the labels Democrate or Republican anymore, they're all Corporatists IMHO.
The Democrats have gotten too tax and spend happy over the last decade for my taste. The Republicans were also spend happy, but I think that's been temporarily beaten out of them due to the party purge thanks to the Tea Party.

I'll vote for anyone who promises smaller gov and lower taxes ... I voted for Perot twice and I think that the large number of votes he got woke up both parties to lower spending back in the 90s.

Reading between the lines, Schumer is advocating larger, more intrusive government.
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Schumer's phone number 202 224 6542
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