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Old 11-24-2014, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Happy to be of service, Denny!

Y'all make me laugh, too, just like David laughed at Goliath!
So are you saying God is on your side?
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
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THIS is what is going on in SEA. It has nothing to do with us "stealing" your Sitka and Boise passengers. It has everything to do with what is going on with HND access and the crap sandwich the Japanese government is serving up U.S. carriers.
Some AS guys can't see past Juno...
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Amazing how y'all continue to cling onto this gossip. In my new hire class, we heard directly from a chief pilot as well as a couple of the executives as to what really happened to spark this little turf war, and it is not as simple as y'all say. Plenty of blame (unreasonable demands / bullying) on Delta's part, for sure.
You might not want to always take managements word as gospel in your career.
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Old 11-24-2014, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
You talk a lot of crap for a guy on probation.
Who cares if he is on probation? What he is saying is correct (the first part at least).
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Amazing how y'all continue to cling onto this gossip. In my new hire class, we heard directly from a chief pilot as well as a couple of the executives as to what really happened to spark this little turf war, and it is not as simple as y'all say. Plenty of blame (unreasonable demands / bullying) on Delta's part, for sure.

Well young grasshopper,

We have time here. Do explain the executives from AS take on "this little turf war."

Let's hear "the not so simple unreasonable demands and bullying" as you say. Please enlighten us so we can know the truth.

Seems straight forward and simple. DL has to move NRT to SEA. Needed feed. AS was reluctant to do so and actually entered into an agreement to code with Emirates instead. That was the day that this became real.



From the WSJ 6/29/14:

But Atlanta-based Delta has become disenchanted with its current Asian hub, at Tokyo's Narita International Airport. Not only has Japan's importance waned as China's air traffic has boomed, but Delta lacks a Japanese airline partner to feed its flights there, and Narita is losing business to an airport closer to downtown Tokyo.

Seattle, the 15th busiest U.S. airport, with 17.4 million passengers boarded last year, was Delta's best option on the West Coast. But the carrier has built up its own feeder operations there, rather than deepen its relationship with Alaska Airlines.

Glen Hauenstein, Delta's chief revenue officer, thinks Seattle is big enough for both carriers. "I don't think anybody gets to claim anything in the business world as theirs," he said in an interview. "Clearly we'll serve some of the same cities but we serve a different spectrum of the market. They're a giant superregional. We're a global carrier."

Alaska Airlines concedes that overseas flights generally bring "value for Seattle, the people who live here and the businesses," said Joe Sprague, senior vice president of communications. "It can be positive for Alaska as well. Those airlines need feed" traffic to fill the big overseas planes, he said.
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
HaHa Cricket! I needed a good laugh today! Quite empty you say to the most profitable airline in the world today? Well we'll take that "emptiness" all the way to the bank!

Denny
Oh yea of such arrogance, just remember, the bigger they are, the harder they fall.
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
You talk a lot of crap for a guy on probation.
And you talk a bunch of crap for one who's been in the industry less than 15 years.
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Originally Posted by scambo1
So are you saying God is on your side?
Perhaps it's true. Alaska did until a few years ago have the "prayer cards" on their meal trays.
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Old 11-24-2014, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by F15Cricket
Two brief points--the reason we are upset with your Airbus purchase is that when Alaska buys Delta, we would rather fly Boeing!
Let us know how you feel after a year in that torture chamber.

Or after a transcon, for that matter.
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Originally Posted by TheManager
Well young grasshopper,

We have time here. Do explain the executives from AS take on "this little turf war."

Let's hear "the not so simple unreasonable demands and bullying" as you say. Please enlighten us so we can know the truth.

Seems straight forward and simple. DL has to move NRT to SEA. Needed feed. AS was reluctant to do so and actually entered into an agreement to code with Emirates instead. That was the day that this became real.



From the WSJ 6/29/14:

But Atlanta-based Delta has become disenchanted with its current Asian hub, at Tokyo's Narita International Airport. Not only has Japan's importance waned as China's air traffic has boomed, but Delta lacks a Japanese airline partner to feed its flights there, and Narita is losing business to an airport closer to downtown Tokyo.

Seattle, the 15th busiest U.S. airport, with 17.4 million passengers boarded last year, was Delta's best option on the West Coast. But the carrier has built up its own feeder operations there, rather than deepen its relationship with Alaska Airlines.

Glen Hauenstein, Delta's chief revenue officer, thinks Seattle is big enough for both carriers. "I don't think anybody gets to claim anything in the business world as theirs," he said in an interview. "Clearly we'll serve some of the same cities but we serve a different spectrum of the market. They're a giant superregional. We're a global carrier."

Alaska Airlines concedes that overseas flights generally bring "value for Seattle, the people who live here and the businesses," said Joe Sprague, senior vice president of communications. "It can be positive for Alaska as well. Those airlines need feed" traffic to fill the big overseas planes, he said.

Hey, we'll build our global wide body hub, you guys can work on your superregional operation.
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