DAL SEA base
07-08-2014, 01:13 PM
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07-08-2014, 03:13 PM
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That's tough
The bottom dweller is around 10,600, or about 1,400 from the bottom of the overall seniority list. Latest crew bulletin said they'll be offering more SEA A330 positions. If some of the 7ER pilots move up to the 330, that may free up some more spots at or below the 10,600 mark.
I looked at a sample of the last few AEs, and the bottom seniority number for a SEA 7ER FO went from 9,881 in Jan 2014 to 10,335 in Feb, then 10,612 on the last AE, so the trend is moving in the right direction.
But as the last guy said, it's a crapshoot if they move the 717 there, or can get worse quickly if they downsize the 7ER there without a replacement. Can't see that happening with the growth in SEA.
My guess (just for fun) . . . one year.
I looked at a sample of the last few AEs, and the bottom seniority number for a SEA 7ER FO went from 9,881 in Jan 2014 to 10,335 in Feb, then 10,612 on the last AE, so the trend is moving in the right direction.
But as the last guy said, it's a crapshoot if they move the 717 there, or can get worse quickly if they downsize the 7ER there without a replacement. Can't see that happening with the growth in SEA.
My guess (just for fun) . . . one year.
07-08-2014, 04:05 PM
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The bottom dweller is around 10,600, or about 1,400 from the bottom of the overall seniority list. Latest crew bulletin said they'll be offering more SEA A330 positions. If some of the 7ER pilots move up to the 330, that may free up some more spots at or below the 10,600 mark.
I looked at a sample of the last few AEs, and the bottom seniority number for a SEA 7ER FO went from 9,881 in Jan 2014 to 10,335 in Feb, then 10,612 on the last AE, so the trend is moving in the right direction.
But as the last guy said, it's a crapshoot if they move the 717 there, or can get worse quickly if they downsize the 7ER there without a replacement. Can't see that happening with the growth in SEA.
My guess (just for fun) . . . one year.
I looked at a sample of the last few AEs, and the bottom seniority number for a SEA 7ER FO went from 9,881 in Jan 2014 to 10,335 in Feb, then 10,612 on the last AE, so the trend is moving in the right direction.
But as the last guy said, it's a crapshoot if they move the 717 there, or can get worse quickly if they downsize the 7ER there without a replacement. Can't see that happening with the growth in SEA.
My guess (just for fun) . . . one year.
For perspective for an outside, 10,600 is a 2007 hire (2001 at NWA).
However, who the heck knows, the trend as Qwyjibo
points out is trending towards SEA being within the reach of a new higher quicker than it used to be.
07-09-2014, 02:18 AM
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Per the contract:
“Delta hub” means ATL, CVG, DTW, JFK, LAX, LGA, MEM, MSP, SLC, and any other airport having a monthly average of at least 100 Delta scheduled flight departures per day.
Exception: SEA is not a Delta hub, regardless of the number of scheduled flight departures.
07-09-2014, 08:54 AM
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Well, for the airline and for the pilots it's got a different meaning.
Per the contract:
[/INDENT]Because why? Because if SEA is considered a hub in the pilot contract then outsourcing to Alaska will not work well, therefore, SEA will never be a hub per the pilot contract.
Per the contract:
[/INDENT]Because why? Because if SEA is considered a hub in the pilot contract then outsourcing to Alaska will not work well, therefore, SEA will never be a hub per the pilot contract.
07-09-2014, 08:59 AM
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"Hub" for purposes of the DL-AK codeshare is different than being considered a DL "hub for flights" or a DL "pilot domicile".*
*I think the AK codeshare needs to be trimmed/ended, but that isn't the reality at present. Looks like it is trending that direction, might be a cheap time to buy tighter language there....
*I think the AK codeshare needs to be trimmed/ended, but that isn't the reality at present. Looks like it is trending that direction, might be a cheap time to buy tighter language there....
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