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05-04-2014, 09:26 AM
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Do you insist that all of your first officers use a flashlight when they do walkarounds in the daylight?
05-04-2014, 09:30 AM
#82
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Extraordinarily hubris from you guys.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
05-04-2014, 09:47 AM
#83
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So do you trust the FO to do the walk around or do you do it? Also, if you do permit them to, how do you ensure they use their flashlights in the daytime?
Extraordinarily hubris from you guys.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
05-04-2014, 09:47 AM
#84
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Extraordinarily hubris from you guys.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
You insult people, but suggest we shut up and show you a little courtesy?
Thanks for the sage advice.
Respectfully,
New K Now
05-04-2014, 10:29 AM
#85
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Extraordinarily hubris from you guys.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
05-04-2014, 10:31 AM
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I'm glad that Timm-ay's legacy carries on, and cultivates nothing but professionalism. Timmy IS ALPA!!!!!
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05-04-2014, 10:34 AM
#87
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05-04-2014, 10:36 AM
#88
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Position: Ca B737
Posts: 2,762
Well not you. Clearly YOU don't need one. Most of us could benefit as I've described above.
05-04-2014, 10:43 AM
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Posts: 17,473
Extraordinarily hubris from you guys.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
One doesn't NEED a flashlight to do a preflight, but it does make the job easier and more thorough.
You don't need it to check the CBs, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the NACA ducts, but it make it easier.
You don't need it to check levels and pressures and look for leaks in the wheel well, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in the exhaust of the CFM, but it makes it easier.
You don't need it to look in to the APU inlet, but it makes it easier.
I'm not saying you walk around with the flashlight on looking like a dork but there are time when it's helpful to have one available. For you idiots to chime it and deride the notion of using a flashlight for a preflight is, well, the very definition of hubris.
Perhaps it's just my A&P training. Or perhaps it's the fact that the walk around is one of the most important parts of the day, and one of the only tasks we don't do together as a crew that make me want it done as well as possible.
In my 30 years of flying I've had plenty of incidents that could have been avoided by good preflights. Three times hatches or panels have opened in flight and departed the airframe. One was a cowling that opened, pealed back against the top if the wing and created some interesting flight characteristics. She swore the cowling was latched properly. One was a hydraulic access door the opened and punched a hole in the flaps as it fell to Earth somewhere over Germany. One time, after landing at a remote airfield, I noticed the jet looked a little lower to the ground than normal. Turns out all three struts were completely flat. He swore they were all fine before departure.
There a difference between the initial preflight walk around and subsequent, between flights, walk arounds. I don't expect subsequent walk arounds to be as thorough. But the first one of the day is, in my estimation, one of the most important safety steps we take to try to have a trouble free day.
Go ahead. I'm ready. Show me your most clever and arrogant. Or maybe just shut up and show me a little courtesy.
I bet you're just a peach to be on a 4 day with.
Never in my career have I seen anyone at any carrier use a flashlight on an daytime walk around. But I haven't been to Juno either...
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