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Old 01-24-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
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This worked. Thank you very much!!!!!
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Old 01-24-2015, 08:25 PM
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Any indication if the usual aircraft: MD80, 717, A320, 737, & 7ER will be available to the 2/2 class?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:07 AM
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Did some number crunching/prognostication for some friends and figured I'd share here, since many of you are trying to foretell the future and decide your priorities on new-hire aircraft.

Taking a look at the latest forecasts, here's roughly what a June 2014 hire would stand one year later at the end of June 2015.

For the "would I have a line?" question: as a rough rule, Crew Services tries to keep about 20% of the category on reserve, so if you are 80% or better, you can hold a line solidly. Since some senior folks bid reserve, you may be able to hold a line significantly earlier.


ATL
•7ER: 514/617 (83%)
•73N: 235/295 (80%)
•320: 100/152 (66%)
•M88: 389/577 (67%)
•717: 187/258 (72%)


CVG:
•M88: 50/53 (94%)
•DTW:
•7ER: 133/152 (88%)
•73N: 84/93 (90%)
•320: 148/146 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
•717: 41/53 (77%)

LAX:
7ER: 190/194 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
73N: 77/88 (88%)

MSP:
•7ER: 137/138 (DEPUTY PLUG)
•M88: 211/211 (PLUG)

NYC
•7ER: 275/421 (65%)
•73N: 70/156 (45%)
•320: 43/152 (28%)
•M88: 35/159 (22%)
•717: 7/139 (5%... DANG, SKIPPY!)

SLC
•7ER: 102/105 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
•73N: 82/89 (92%)
•320: 118/143 (82%)

Of course, 2015 movement will look different than 2014, but some stuff to consider since airline pilots never, ever overthink stuff.
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Old 01-25-2015, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
Did some number crunching/prognostication for some friends and figured I'd share here, since many of you are trying to foretell the future and decide your priorities on new-hire aircraft.

Of course, 2015 movement will look different than 2014, but some stuff to consider since airline pilots never, ever overthink stuff.
Had to laugh at your last comment since I've been self-admittedly overthinking this since my CJO.

Thanks a bunch for the info. I appreciate the data points prior to making a decision that will affect my family for at least a year.
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
Did some number crunching/prognostication for some friends and figured I'd share here, since many of you are trying to foretell the future and decide your priorities on new-hire aircraft.

Taking a look at the latest forecasts, here's roughly what a June 2014 hire would stand one year later at the end of June 2015.

For the "would I have a line?" question: as a rough rule, Crew Services tries to keep about 20% of the category on reserve, so if you are 80% or better, you can hold a line solidly. Since some senior folks bid reserve, you may be able to hold a line significantly earlier.


ATL
•7ER: 514/617 (83%)
•73N: 235/295 (80%)
•320: 100/152 (66%)
•M88: 389/577 (67%)
•717: 187/258 (72%)


CVG:
•M88: 50/53 (94%)
•DTW:
•7ER: 133/152 (88%)
•73N: 84/93 (90%)
•320: 148/146 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
•717: 41/53 (77%)

LAX:
7ER: 190/194 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
73N: 77/88 (88%)

MSP:
•7ER: 137/138 (DEPUTY PLUG)
•M88: 211/211 (PLUG)

NYC
•7ER: 275/421 (65%)
•73N: 70/156 (45%)
•320: 43/152 (28%)
•M88: 35/159 (22%)
•717: 7/139 (5%... DANG, SKIPPY!)

SLC
•7ER: 102/105 (ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PLUG)
•73N: 82/89 (92%)
•320: 118/143 (82%)

Of course, 2015 movement will look different than 2014, but some stuff to consider since airline pilots never, ever overthink stuff.
This is awesome info....does anyone know how many have been hired since Jun 14? Also, does anyone have any official hiring projections by the company?
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by overthehill
This is awesome info....does anyone know how many have been hired since Jun 14? Also, does anyone have any official hiring projections by the company?
Roughly 700 since June. Still doing 115/mo through at least April to cover the summer schedule. Not sure what they will throttle back to in Summer but still talking 900 new hires in '15.
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by overthehill
This is awesome info....does anyone know how many have been hired since Jun 14? Also, does anyone have any official hiring projections by the company?
Roughly 750 June 2014-Present. Another 300 before that since hiring started in January 2014.

I've heard everything from 115-125/mo for the next year. It appears they are behind the power curve as they started hiring later than desired and are now trying to catch up. I believe it will taper back eventually to 400-500/yr rate once they get caught up to where they need to be.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:15 PM
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Elvis, have you got MSP A320 data in that pile? I didn't see it on your chart. That's where I'm trying to get...
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RoughLandings
Elvis, have you got MSP A320 data in that pile? I didn't see it on your chart. That's where I'm trying to get...
MSP 320 B plug who just got in this past AE (to be in MSP no later than 1 Jul 15) is an April 2014 hire. If you're trying to get to MSP, most likely your 1yr initial seatlock will expire before you win it on an AE.
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Old 01-25-2015, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flying Elvis
Roughly 750 June 2014-Present. Another 300 before that since hiring started in January 2014.

I've heard everything from 115-125/mo for the next year. It appears they are behind the power curve as they started hiring later than desired and are now trying to catch up. I believe it will taper back eventually to 400-500/yr rate once they get caught up to where they need to be.
Retirements don't start ramping up until 2017....why the drastic increase in pilot end strength? What is the current total? Must be over 12,500.
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