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Old 12-13-2015, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by slimothy
I retired from the Marine Corps a year ago, similar background (1300 helo, 1700 BE20, 1600 of which is PIC, and around 600 PIC in the helo). One thing I have learned over the past year is that this is a crap shoot. Pure black magic. After 6 months of staying home with my kids, I got the interview with SWA. I made it to the background check portion, but was not selected to go on, and given no explanation. I can't think of anything in my background that should have come as a surprise, so I'm not sure what I did wrong. I was attributing it to my helo time, but a good friend of mine just got the CJO with very similar creds, so I must have punted the interview. Anyhow, with currency becoming a concern, I took the job at a regional in June, a week after I got the TBNT from SWA. I only have about 200 hours in the ERJ now, and I am in phase 2 with JB, hoping for a Feb class.

Long story short, you've got a good chance at landing an interview, but have a back up plan! Best of luck to you.
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This is one of the best replies I've gotten, thank you. My biggest concern is not having thousands and thousands of hours and not having any heavy or jet time. This gave me a little bit more hope. I'll keep my fingers crossed!!
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Old 12-13-2015, 10:48 AM
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Armypilot - from a FW perspective your resume isn't competitive. Some carriers will give you credit for your RW time. With that you're competive as a retired military W-x or O-x.

Your military experience will give you points in the non flying portion of your resume. Will that be enough if the airline doesn't accept RW time? I'd guess not.

Get out and get a regional job. Instant jet time, larger a/c than you've flown before, 121 box checked off, ability to check mil/civ box. And you'd be cranking out 700-900 hrs of FW a year.

What's unknown is did slimothy's regional job on his resume trigger the call from JB for an interview? No one knows. But some, actually all, of the military guys I've been advising who havn't been called by a major have had contact shortly checking off '121/civilian' on their resumes.
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Old 12-13-2015, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
Armypilot - from a FW perspective your resume isn't competitive. Some carriers will give you credit for your RW time. With that you're competive as a retired military W-x or O-x.

Your military experience will give you points in the non flying portion of your resume. Will that be enough if the airline doesn't accept RW time? I'd guess not.

Get out and get a regional job. Instant jet time, larger a/c than you've flown before, 121 box checked off, ability to check mil/civ box. And you'd be cranking out 700-900 hrs of FW a year.

What's unknown is did slimothy's regional job on his resume trigger the call from JB for an interview? No one knows. But some, actually all, of the military guys I've been advising who havn't been called by a major have had contact shortly checking off '121/civilian' on their resumes.
Yep. Didn't get the call by the time I retired, picked up with regional and got the call to interview with JB within three months of retiring, now in Phase II. Didn't have my jet/121 boxes checked till I got on with the regional, had all else.
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Actually do stress over Hogan... they use it as a deal breaker. "I like classical music..." or "I prefer to read a book over watching TV..." Really?!

"I would enjoy skydiving." So what if you actually did 15 years ago, but haven't done it since? Your only options are true or false...

If they were using Hogan as a supplement to give you a better screening and line of questions at the interview, then I'd say don't worry.

Using a true/false line of questions as end-all-be-all without a follow-up, they've sent some outstanding candidates to Delta, SWA and AA.
Absolutely correct. I didn't get past the Hogan but got the interview and CJO from Delta 4 months later. FWIW, I know of guys who re-took the Hogan 12 months after not getting through it the first time and made it on the second attempt and are now on at UAL. Crazy test!
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Old 12-16-2015, 03:48 PM
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United CJO.

Thanks to Keith at Centerline, his prep was invaluable. Highly recommended!

Also, Greg & Mary at ECIC were lots of help. Thanks so much!

I can't wait to get started. Definitely on cloud nine.

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Old 12-16-2015, 04:00 PM
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SWA CJO
3,100 TT
1,800 PIC/IP
Military, heavy transport, IP/EP
No 737 type
Masters 3.8
4 Internal LORs
29 Aug 15 applied
29 Sep 15 interview invite
9 NOV 15 interview
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15 Jul 16 - Listed date available
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:31 PM
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Now that's impressive. A CJO seven months prior to your terminal leave/active duty separation/retirement date. Nice work & congrats!
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Old 12-16-2015, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CODs4ever
Now that's impressive. A CJO seven months prior to your terminal leave/active duty separation/retirement date. Nice work & congrats!
I was seriously shocked to get the invite so far out. But there was another in my interview group in the same boat, and he got the CJO as well. Maybe a smart move by SWA to reach so far forward, while others are building seemingly large pools. Anyway you slice it, I couldn't be more psyched!
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:22 AM
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SWA CJO
~8k Total(all civilian)
121 LCP
Union Volunteer
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11/4 interview
12/16 CJO
No word on class date, most likely early February.

6 weeks from interview to CJO. Good luck to all.
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Old 12-18-2015, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
Yep. Didn't get the call by the time I retired, picked up with regional and got the call to interview with JB within three months of retiring, now in Phase II. Didn't have my jet/121 boxes checked till I got on with the regional, had all else.
How much do internal recs count? I have a cousin that's a junior captain at AA and several Army buddies that are senior-ish FO's (747/777) at UAL. All have offered letters and have offered to "walk" my resume into HR. Is that shooting for the stars, or does it actually carry some weight?
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